Unity/Infinity/One

[anagogy]

Aha I must say, you do seem to place your intentions in to the words of others as we all do, so discussing the works of others becomes and interesting exercise. Since anyone can say 'I believe they meant this' you can essentially take anyone's words and give your own meaning to them. Of course, each of us will see someone to 'mean' whatever is most conducive to our thought structures. Not saying there is any fault in this, just an observation.

The alternative is accepting the words spoken by revered teachers to the extent that to question it were intolerable heresy. That would be the definition of dogma. Ra made plenty of errors during the course of their transmission. Unintentionally omitting the word "self" when discussing their sequential cosmology would be incredibly small by comparison. It is completely natural to interpret and build upon others works, and in fact almost all progressive thought relies on it.  Also just an observation.

However, perhaps we have a different understanding of intelligence and that might account for our different perceptions. Intelligence, to me, is the potential and consciousness is the kinetic, and so infinity is the potential and awareness is the kinetic.

So yes, we can say they are 'one', but I personally would NOT say they are same concepts became they are in fact the FIRST difference (distortion) and so I actually believe that the difference between infinity and awareness IS the first distortion.

Yes, we have very different notions of infinity it would seem. You see, when I think of infinity, its everything. Nothing is added to that state, it is merely focused. Every distortion is just a further focusing on what is already there, in infinity. When you focus, the only thing that happens is that awareness is redistributed. Your awareness of the specific increases, and your awareness of the broader picture decreases. That's all that's happening from my perspective.

But you talk about intelligence being the kinetic. Hasn't Ra stated that there is no difference between potential and kinetic in infinity? So even by your own defined parameters there is awareness in infinity.

Ra describes the Creator as the unified first three distortions, and that is what they call Intelligent Infinity. Notice however that when Don asks what the first known thing is they said 'infinity', not intelligent infinity. That is because Intelligent Infinity is actually the culmination of the difference between Infinity and Awareness, imo. Yet, you cannot equate awareness with infinity and still get that difference. I believe awareness is 'finity', so infinite awareness is infinity exploring 'finity'.

They also said that intelligent and infinity cannot be divided anymore than the word "faith" can so that kind of contradicts that notion. They equal one concept according to Ra, so even if they just say 'infinity' it would still imply intelligence, by their own admonition.

Essentially I think that's why nothing ends and everything cycles, because awareness demands finite experience because if infinity is entirely aware of itself then it is also aware of nothing for there is no differentiation. It is only with limits and difference that awareness becomes meaningful.

So, sure, we can say the awareness was 'always there', but to me the potential that is infinity came first, and then awareness is the defining difference of Infinity within itself juxtaposed with 'finity'. Perhaps I am going in semantic circles though and we are not saying such different things. I guess we each will perceive our own meanings in each others words.

Well they have even defined red ray as consciousness (though it is certainly not "self aware"), and that is the most basic vibration there is, according to the Ra cosmology, so what does that say about infinity (which is a mind mindbogglingly massive singularity of all vibrations)?

Also consider this quote: "The one undifferentiated intelligent infinity, unpolarized, full and whole, is the macrocosm of the mystery-clad being. We are messengers of the Law of One. Unity, at this approximation of understanding, cannot be specified by any physics but only be activated or potentiated intelligent infinity due to the catalyst of free will. This may be difficult to accept. However, the understandings we have to share begin and end in mystery."

They are essentially saying, as I see it, here that upotentiated infinity can only become potentiated infinity (kinetic manifestation) due to the catalyst of free will (i.e. first distortion).

Consider for a moment, that free will IMPLIES awareness of choice. A choice is NOT a choice if you are not AWARE of it. Can you agree with me on that? For me, it seems very logically apparent. This is just more implications, to me, that the upotentiated state of infinite unity prior to potentiation is one of absolute awareness (intelligence).

Infinity CHOOSES to potentiate, or kinetically manifest. A choice without awareness is not a choice, rather, it is a random occurrence. Choice conveys conscious awareness of INTENT.