08-20-2016, 02:40 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2016, 03:05 AM by Chandlersdad.)
(08-19-2016, 12:39 AM)sjel Wrote: Would it just seem to the veiled entity that the pre-veil one was enlightened? Ra also said that the pre-veil experience was extremely pale and shallow in comparison to the rich and vivid experience of the veiled third density, so would the pre-veil entity even be spiritually intelligent enough to know what was going on?
This is so weird a concept, it must have been done somewhere in the creation. Also Ra stated that yes, many pre-veil third density civilizations traveled across planets before entrance into fourth density, so I wonder if that could have set up encounters with veiled planets.
Would the pre-veil entity even be able to use the veil as catalyst?? or would the whole notion of "pre-veil" be shattered once the PV entity lays eyes upon the Veil??
Quote:Ra:You may consider any possibility/probability complex as having an existence.
so don't tell me it's impossible! although it really does seem to defy logic, this interaction.
I would suggest that Jesus was a pre-veil entity. He was a Wanderer from 6th Density who supposedly saw through the veil. As we know, he had no problem communicating with veiled humans. He had great compassion for them, having processed through 4th and 5th density before his incarnation. I remember the story of Jesus on a hill overlooking Jerusalem and crying for the people there. I have done the same for people in a Donald Trump rally. LOL
I would suspect any pre-veil human in 3rd density that came from at least 4th density positive would have a lot of tea and sympathy for the rest of humanity. Such a person may become a humble teacher. If Jesus hadn't confronted the Jewish religious/political leaders of his time, he could have lived a long fruitful life of teaching and blessing others.
I honestly don't get the "not caring" theory. If you KNOW that humans are veiled and ignorant, going through great pain and suffering due to their ignorance, not utilizing catalyst in order to grow, filled with fear and hate, while YOU know that the point of the game is to learn love and wisdom, how could you not care, unless you were a negatively polarized entity? Hell, I am veiled, but I care when I see scenes of starving children in Africa, abused animals, poverty, etc. Since a negative polarized Wanderer is very rare per Ra, I would suggest that most Wanderers who penetrate the veil care very much.
UPDATE: I guess my comments have an underlying assumption that only Wanderers could rip through the veil. I don't think the average human can do that. Yes, we can learn all about it intellectually, and realize there is much more than we sense. Certainly, some children are born with memories of the previous life but this tends to dissolve as they reach 7 or more. I guess I just don't see the average 3 D human (who has not progressed beyond that) being able to remove the veil. I've known some humans (self acclaimed psychics) who CLAIM to have lifted their veil, but on close friendship I realized this was simple marketing. Beyond their New Age teachings they were as oblivious as the rest of us.