08-15-2016, 05:50 AM
(08-02-2016, 08:20 AM)Verum Occultum Wrote: How do you suppose wanderers can move from higher densities to third density? If that is possible, then would not the opposite phenomenon be possible, not merely after physical death, but in incarnation in out-of-body states.
First part
There are three movement methods: one method is travel by thought, another by incarnation, and the last is by the use of material craft. The latter is the least important as it won't normally apply to Wanderers, and it is not a type of movement from a higher density to a lower density in the sense that the Wanderer entity would truly experience the vibration of the lower density.
Through incarnation to our third-density, the Wanderer...well, I haven't understood the "descent" precisely, but what I understand is that the Wanderer connects it's own mind/body/spirit complex to the DNA or the genetics of the human body (65.19). This is accomplished somehow, but it should be noted that since the Earth is in a quarantine, Wanderers cannot do this movement between densities on a whim...I think. They must possess some clearance to do this apparently, so I would presume that the incarnation process, the connection of the Wanderer's mind/body/spirit complex into the human's genetics, is a process guarded carefully. Please remember that for the next method. In the end of this process, there is an incarnated Wanderer who is now human and on Earth, and a part of third-density.
Thought-travel requires the discipline of the personality which is a work typical to fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-density (51.2). It's not limited to those densities; that is to say, the third-density entity can begin the discipline of the personality (the discipline of the personality is part of indigo-ray work) (52.7). But the experience of using thought-travel to move between loci and to move across densities within the Universe is an experience of the fourth, fifth, and sixth densities (see 51.2 again).
Okay, this is the part I asked to be remembered.
Since thought-travel is one means of movement, I assume Wanderers do not arrive to our planet by way of concentrating on the vibrations of our density (12.17) in order to "descend" into third-density and thus appear visible.
Rather than that, I assume Wanderers arrive to Earth by: (1) having clearance to pass the quarantine; (2) lowering their vibration to third density, to arrive at one of the inner planes of third-density, and there establishing pre-incarnative circumstances for itself and perhaps with other entities within that metaphysical plane of third-density; (3) and residing not by thought, but by inhabiting, with full presence of the mind/body/spirit complex, the physical human body...but being veiled so that the energy centers are not activated, nor the energy bodies, until the human consciously decides to do this work.
Second part
So that's how I suppose Wanderers move from their higher densities to lower ones like the third.
Can we do the opposite, move from our density to a higher density?
Only under one condition, but otherwise no. The discipline required to move between densities is one which is only just begun in third density. The actual loci of each density must be supported by a planet, or else where would the 3D entity go in their "higher" form? To third-density Earth or its inner planes? Yes there are seven Earths as my previous post mentioned. But those must be potentiated by the planet when it becomes a planet of a greater density, being capable of housing entities of higher vibrations.
The one condition is one which I don't fully understand myself...it has to do with tapping into the violet-ray energy center. You quoted a passage from the Ra Material about that, and the activation of the violet-ray center may have to do with the discipline of the personality that I mentioned in the first part. But through reading I've understood that the indigo-ray energy center is that which opens the gateway to intelligent infinity...
Again, I did read your post and the quote. But in certain session it is stated that the violet-ray cannot be manipulated (15.12)...and yet at least 3 negatively oriented entities have used, or rather penetrated, this energy center (11.8, 11.9). ?? Confusing, but anyways.
About your quote, and the discipline of the personality which I posit is key to any movement across densities.
Your quote:
Quote:Ra (17.18): "Know then, first, the mind and the body. Then as the spirit is integrated and synthesized, those are harmonized into a mind/body/spirit complex which can move among the dimensions and which can open the gateway to intelligent infinity..."
What I've found:
Quote:Ra (52.7): Acceptance of self, forgiveness of self, and the direction of the will; this is the path towards the disciplined personality.
Quote:Ra (74.11): I am Ra. The heart of the discipline of the personality is threefold. One, know yourself. Two, accept yourself. Three, become the Creator.
The third step is that step which, when accomplished, renders one the most humble servant of all, transparent in personality and completely able to know and accept other-selves. In relation to the pursuit of the magical working the continuing discipline of the personality involves the adept in knowing itself, accepting itself, and thus clearing the path towards the great indigo gateway to the Creator. To become the Creator is to become all that there is. There is then no personality in the sense with which the adept begins its learn/teaching. As the consciousness of the indigo ray becomes more crystalline, more work may be done; more may be expressed from intelligent infinity.
Quote:Ra (32.14): The indigo ray is opened only through considerable discipline and practice largely having to do with acceptance of self, not only as the polarized and balanced self but as the Creator, as an entity of infinite worth. This will begin to activate the indigo ray.
Finally (third part)
One thing we have to note is that the planet Earth cannot house entities of a higher vibration than fourth-density just yet. Entities of a higher-density nature must descend into the appropriate vibratory rate of the planet. So for someone to travel from this our third-density to another density, that someone must go to a different planet. However, entities may move about the inner planes of third density. There are enlightened beings and teachers there according to Ra. (17.37) I've never been to an inner plane, not that I can remember. But the way I see it, the inner planes are very likely what 3D entities are visiting. Not densities. I believe the energy bodies are the "vehicles" for the sub-densities/inner planes of third-density, and nirvana, in terms of locus is on a higher inner plane, perhaps the devachanic, while in terms of one's state of being it is a closing in of focus on the original thought. Again, I'd redirect you to session 17.37.
So to conclude, you can move across densities as a third-density human...if you have the discipline of an adept and/or white magician...and/or begin the work of a higher density. Otherwise, I'm saying movement across densities is not possible. Incarnation is out of the picture, since a 3D human can't do it in reverse to enter a higher density while incarnate (i think), and a Wanderer incarnate can't reverse this either...least not without the aforementioned indigo-ray ability. Travel by craft is impertinent. I was gonna talk about dual-activated bodies but...they don't seem important yet.
I want to separate these posts....but Verum, if you think I've sufficiently addressed your post, feel free to tell me. I think I got to the core of it. I was planning on trying to address your interpretation and the rest of your post next.