08-10-2016, 03:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-10-2016, 10:36 AM by APeacefulWarrior.
Edit Reason: Hours later, I notice I wrote 1953 rather than 1853. Sigh.
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No offense, but you and\or Mandelker are reading things into that particular Ra comment which were not there. I'll quote the substance for convenience:
Nowhere does he claim the Civil War was happening in 1853. He mentions long-standing battles being waged in 4D, basically in parallel to activities on Earth. And as another comment pointed out, there were plenty of wars at that time, as well as the ongoing issue of slavery, which Lincoln was concerned with. Ra does allude directly to his opposition to slavery. Also, it's very widely theorized that Lincoln had medical conditions which contributed to his unusual size and appearance. These would have almost certainly been extremely painful, and even more so in a world without real painkillers - and that could make anyone weary of life.
Further, Ra's account does actually line up with what we know of Lincoln's timeline. Prior to 1853, he was primarily a lawyer. He had been briefly elected to the House of Reps in 1847-49, but it was an unsuccessful term and when he lost his reelection bid, he went back to his work as a lawyer. But suddenly, in 1854, he decided to re-enter politics -largely due to slavery issues- and got himself elected to the Senate, which began the political career track that led him to the Presidency.
So do we know for certain that Lincoln was "possessed" by a 4D entity who had the specific goal of ending slavery? No, of course not. But nothing I know of in Lincoln's timeline actually contradicts it, and it would explain how/why he re-entered politics when his prior attempt had been a pretty humiliating failure.
Quote:The one known as Abraham had an extreme difficulty in many ways and, due to physical, mental, and spiritual pain, was weary of life but without the orientation to self-destruction. In your time, 1853, this entity was contacted in sleep by a fourth-density being. This being was concerned with the battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness which have been waged in fourth density for many of your years.
This entity accepted the honor/duty of completing the one known as Abraham’s karmic patterns and the one known as Abraham discovered that this entity would attempt those things which the one known as Abraham desired to do but felt it could not. Thus the exchange was made.
The entity, Abraham, was taken to a plane of suspension until the cessation of its physical vehicle much as though we of Ra would arrange with this instrument to remain in the vehicle, come out of the trance state, and function as this instrument, leaving this instrument’s mind and spirit complex in its suspended state.
The planetary energies at this time were at what seemed to this entity to be at a critical point, for that which you know as freedom had gained in acceptance as a possibility among many peoples. This entity saw the work done by those beginning the democratic concept of freedom, as you call it, in danger of being abridged or abrogated by the rising belief and use of the principle of the enslavement of entities. This is a negative concept of a fairly serious nature in your density. This entity, therefore, went forward into what it saw as the battle for the light, for healing of a rupture in the concept of freedom.
This entity did not gain or lose karma by these activities due to its detachment from any outcome. Its attitude throughout was one of service to others, more especially to the downtrodden or enslaved. The polarity of the individual was somewhat, but not severely, lessened by the cumulative feelings and thought-forms which were created due to large numbers of entities leaving the physical plane due to trauma of battle.
Nowhere does he claim the Civil War was happening in 1853. He mentions long-standing battles being waged in 4D, basically in parallel to activities on Earth. And as another comment pointed out, there were plenty of wars at that time, as well as the ongoing issue of slavery, which Lincoln was concerned with. Ra does allude directly to his opposition to slavery. Also, it's very widely theorized that Lincoln had medical conditions which contributed to his unusual size and appearance. These would have almost certainly been extremely painful, and even more so in a world without real painkillers - and that could make anyone weary of life.
Further, Ra's account does actually line up with what we know of Lincoln's timeline. Prior to 1853, he was primarily a lawyer. He had been briefly elected to the House of Reps in 1847-49, but it was an unsuccessful term and when he lost his reelection bid, he went back to his work as a lawyer. But suddenly, in 1854, he decided to re-enter politics -largely due to slavery issues- and got himself elected to the Senate, which began the political career track that led him to the Presidency.
So do we know for certain that Lincoln was "possessed" by a 4D entity who had the specific goal of ending slavery? No, of course not. But nothing I know of in Lincoln's timeline actually contradicts it, and it would explain how/why he re-entered politics when his prior attempt had been a pretty humiliating failure.