Is the afterlife timeless?

[Minyatur]

From a certain vantage point, I agree with you, and from another perspective I see it differently. It really all just depends on which orbit you are looking at the infinity that is. The universe, and everything in it, looks very different with each increasingly broader perspective, which makes it difficult to say any perspective is completely wrong, because there is inevitably somewhere where that perspective applies. Basically, the the core of our spirits and beingness is timeless and thus, changeless.  A changeless center is required to "measure" or "register" change. It is the still backdrop which acts as the universal frame of reference for all change. In other-words: pure consciousness. It is sort of analogous to watching the clouds move against a large mountain. Without the stabile unmoving frame of reference of the mountain, the movement of the clouds is undiscernible. Similarly, the illusion of change that takes place in the realm of cognition, or *mind*, would be impossible without the unmoving, changeless, and fundamentally timeless still center point of spirit.

I agree fully with this.

From the absolute broadest level of beingness, there is no change occurring from my perspective. Nothing is actually evolving. What we have mistakenly confused as evolution, change, form, and separation is actually just an illusory identification with lower order thoughtforms eternally present in intelligent infinity. But that hurts my head to think about. D:

The notion of change and evolution seems heavily linked with intelligence. Intelligence always is but always is because the experience of infinity always was.

I think here the point is that outside any form of illusion, beingness remains truth and that is what springs forth illusions for beingness to concretely experience, from illusionary vantage points.

I also think there is an ever present synthesis of infinity having been experienced, and that is what Ra refers to as the first distortion. Beingness is self-accepting, and if it was not then maybe there would be no infinity.

It could be argued that my way of looking at things is not in perfect alignment with the universe described by Ra. However, I would argue it is implied by it though. My views line up probably most closely with the philosophy of advaita vedanta.

Mine is but one of chaos and order, which can be seen through many scopes. Mine is mainly to perceive will and thought forms.

On the pure time/space, it seems paradoxal to take out one of the portion that makes time/space what it is. It seems time can only exist within the concept of space within the duality they represent. Both extremities coaslesce into what is neither of them to reach back to the Source (or emerge from it from there) which is why Ra calls it moving toward timelessness, because you expand on the time extremity until you break free from it.

From my perspective, time is more fundamental than space. I mean technically, they are both "types of space". There are quotes in the Ra material that basically state that time/space is prior to space/time, I can dredge them up if you like. They are two sides of the same coin, absolutely, but one is more real, deep, and fundamental, than the other. The continuum between time and space and space and time, identified by Ra as time/space and space/time respectively, are similar to the continuum between truth/falsity, light/dark, heat/cold. You can say they are two sides of the same coin, but in reality there is no separation between them. One is just the "resistance" to the other more fundamental and natural state. An "inversion" if you will, which requires a deliberate and focused energetic kinetic investment by the creator to maintain its manifestation -- a warping or translation of information and perception.

I remember we've had this disagreement on another form of duality.

I tend to think that both aspects of a duality exist only within their dualized reality and that what is dualized stands above both of it's poles. As such, the truer pole is manifest only in face of it's counterpart. Time is through space, light manifests in darkness (it's absence), etc. The counterpart is somewhat what draws the truer pole into existence/manifestation. The process of duality allows infinite loops to take place and to expand a thought into an infinite one.

So between time and space, time would be the truer paradox to solve and break free from but I am not sure there is time, as within this duality, outside of space.

In the same way that when distortion/separation is gone, there is only undistortion, or truth/unity, when all is said and done, there is only time left. It is the "space" that is left over when the illusory exploration of finity is completed.

It is the limitless and supraluminal current that is natural to intelligent infinity.

But if you have a different view on it all, it's all good man. I have no problem with that. I think different perspectives make things interesting.

Well here I'd say that time also is an illusion, although less illusionary than space.

Within the duality of void and infinity, would you deem the void to be the truer pole?