08-02-2016, 01:44 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-02-2016, 01:49 AM by unir 1.
Edit Reason: misspelled "energy". Also, while I'm here, Verum: your first quote comes from session 47.8 actually
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(07-31-2016, 05:59 PM)Verum Occultum Wrote: I have some quotes here that can posit otherwise.
Quote:Ra (48.8): ...The light body or blue-ray body may be called the devachanic body. There are many other names for this body especially in your so-called Indian Sutras or writings, for there are those among these peoples which have explored these regions and understand the various types of devachanic bodies.
Quote:Ra (48.10): ...There are adepts who have penetrated many, many of the energy centers and several of the true colors.
The quotes you gave do not support the idea that penetrating any of the energy centers and/or activating any of the energy bodies is equivalent to experiencing the density which corresponds to the true-color-ray.
Ra has, at least once, explicitly stated the third and fourth density are different. I would assume the same applies to each other density compared against third density.
I'm not convinced, then, that an energy body activation is equal to a density experience.
This is my third draft. The other drafts I had were unnecessarily courteous and digressed/elaborated more, but the above is mostly the core and a suitable response.
I'll leave this from one of the drafts though, because it seems important:
"For example, consider the green-ray body which may be called the astral body. An adept can explore this body, I assume, just like the other bodies [(the devachanic body and the form-maker/etheric body)]. But will the [3rd-density] adept, then, understand the fourth density? To my knowledge, such understanding would not be possible until the adept graduates from third density. In that case the experience of fourth density, this particular density at the very least, cannot be understood."
But I'm ready to concede, and am leaning towards you being correct.
Other drafts had an issue with the off-chance that Ra, in your quote, was alluding to the inner planes of third density which contain the devachanic and astral planes. (17.34 - 17.39) Furthermore, the Ra Material states that the indigo-ray body/etheric/form-maker body, normally activates after an incarnate human's death, and the place of this post-death process is the metaphysical plane (also known as time/space), or inner plane...
Quote:71.6
Ra: In these metaphysical planes there is a great deal of what you call time which is used to review and re-review the biases and learn/teachings of a prior, as you would call it, space/time incarnation.
...not the sixth density for example. So after one's death, if the indigo-ray body is immediately activated (as it should normally be), it should not necessarily mean that an entity is resting in sixth density, but rather it is simply resting in the indigo-ray, or form-maker, body.
The same, I believe, would apply to a third density entity who has activated one of the energy bodies it has in potentiation. By this logic, an adept may not necessarily experience the sixth density after activating the indigo-ray body. The same with other energy bodies and their corresponding true-color-ray densities.
However, the idea that consciousness can be placed in a "state" which corresponds with an energ[y] body, seems like it will be a turning point in this argument. I don't know what to make of that idea yet.
Also, this is for the OP's first sentence:
Quote:15.9
Ra: There is one energy. It may be understood as love/light or light/love or intelligent energy.