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    Thread: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS?


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    10-07-2010, 12:36 AM (This post was last modified: 10-07-2010, 01:03 AM by unity100.)
    profit, is sts. in various levels.

    first, profit means, you are gaining more than you are giving. it is not only increasing of interests of self, but also energetically means taking, not even holding/blocking energy. you generate/create X amount of energy/activity, but, when the dust settles, you have more than X worth.

    it is a negative energy situation.

    Quote:Profit is simply the result of financial resources provided by those who are served, in excess of the financial cost to provide them with goods or services.

    it breaks down there in the red underlined part.

    as long as you take more than you give, it is a negative energy flow. there is no changing that.

    even if you 'invest' that profits to generate 'more jobs' or whatever, it will still be a negative flow, as long as you profit over it.

    for anyone to profit over something, there has to be some outer source other than themselves, giving MORE than that party is taking.

    basically, for a 'company' of people, investors to be making a profit, someone has to give them MORE than what those group of people are generating. not its exact worth. more.

    that means, the other party, will be losing in the process. giving more than what they receive. their situation, energetically, will be in the positive, because they have given more than what they have received.

    in addition, the concept of 'investor', 'company', this that are all inherently sts. because, they have discrimination in their fundamentals - its not everyone that benefits, its a group of people. not even the entities participating in the process of generating that energy/action, but, a group of entities, which are defined, get the excess you speak of.

    its double negativity here.

    had a group of people came together, and worked to create some energy/action, and then took more than the effort they spent for it, but received equal shares, that group would be negative.

    however, in this situation a group of very few people called 'investors', 'rights owners' receive all that. and all the ones who are dubbed as 'employees' receive only agreed on, token amounts compared to the shares.

    so, in the end, the negative flow ends up being generated through exploitation of others, leave aside taking more from the party that the product/service has been rendered to.

    if, the profit is maximized, wages will also generally be minimized. and with minimum wage or lower, the entities who are being exploited in the group ends up little different from literal slaves -> instead of their food directly been given to them, and their shelter, they are being given an amount of money and expected to buy their own food and shelter.
    (10-07-2010, 12:35 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: What about the competition aspect? The elevating of one's own products while trashing the competition?

    that is another important concept.

    competition, is a trait of negative path. instead of cooperation, and everyone receiving equal shares by collaborating in everything, there is a 'winner' in competition, and others dont get anything. eventually, regular winners get ahead of others, become more powerful than others, and subdue others. in current system, it comes up as acquisitions, takeovers, buyouts, majority share ownerships.

    basically, the current system we have, provides a state of chaos, under the guise of freedom for the leveling wars of a negative nature to happen. and it only lasts until the hierarchy is established.

    had there not been 'socialist' laws breaking up and preventing monopolies, entire countries all wealth and wealth generating means would be owned by a single individual or family by now, on top of the food chain. enough time has passed for it to be possible.

    as an example, america was almost owned by 3-4 families in many sectors, in late 19th century. had they not been broken up, those families would be owning entire activity in america by now, thanks to the megacorporations, proxy companies, financial tools that have been developed later in the century.

    and now, even despite those laws, the activity in all countries are monopolized by a handful of minority families or wealth groups, and these groups are naturally running everything in the country through the democratic processes, thanks to the power of wealth.

    want to get elected ? you cant get elected without getting publicity. want publicity ? you need money. have money ? you have to be on good side of those who monopolize media. are you on good side of them ? then you are already their puppet. so, even having money is irrelevant.
    in regard to my above comment regarding the energy flow, please remember that, each action, choice, state, has counterparts in time/space. leave aside its social implications, any act, state, would also affect not only the society, but also their initiators according to their nature.

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    Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by Questioner - 10-05-2010, 11:53 PM
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