how can 4th/5th/6th density negative entities exist without the veil?

[Verum Occultum]

I can understand...

Each being is enclosed to its interpretation of reality, because all the information of the existence is subjective. My understanding is that the negative entity clothes its reality with falsity. Falsity being that which is not. That which is, is love/light. In the absence of that which is, there is an endless abyss of those things considered dark. The negative entity harnesses from this abyss the power to think, interpret, feel and act in ways that bring about a reality as real and lucid as the reality of light. However, it is metaphysically different. For them the abyss is not dark. They enjoy the power of the abyss and solely love to create differently.

(80.8)

...The power of falsity is deep as is the power to discern truth from shadow. The shadow of hidden things is an infinite depth in which is stored the power of the One Infinite Creator.

The adept, then, is working with the power of hidden things illuminated by that which can be false or true. To embrace falsity, to know it, to seek it, and to use it gives a power that is most great. This is the nature of the power of your visitor and may shed some light upon the power of one who seeks in order to serve others as well, for the missteps in the night are oh! so easy.

I believe the progress through densities is one which gains greater and greater momentum of desire to evolve. The call of the Absolute and Magnificent presence of the Creator can be heard louder and louder as one walks closer to it. And the learn/teachings are very intense or more dense in deeper densities of reality. So the negative entity just keeps moving forward. They know unity, but it could be that the perspective of unity is different in positive and negative space/time & time/space. I remember someone said brilliantly on another thread that while for the positive entity negative time/space is dark, it is bright for the negative entity. So they are able to absorb service to self on the same level of intensity as a star radiates its light, physically speaking. This speaks for the compacted state. It is a metaphysical state.

(48.6)

...In fifth-density negative, service to self has become extremely intense and the self has shrunk or compacted so that the dialogues with the teach/learners are used exclusively in order to intensify wisdom... There are very, very few fifth-density Orion members for they do not any longer perceive any virtue in other-selves.

I assume a sixth-density entity is willing to teach/learn the fifth-density entity. Is there virtue in other-selves after all? The student is seen and experienced as the Self by the teacher, and thus, the offering of negative wisdom is seen as a service to the self, because service to self is perpetuated through the other-self even more powerfully with increased wisdom. It is a win-win situation.

(45.11)

...Beyond a certain point the evolution of spirit is quite dependent upon the understanding of self and other-self as Creator.

But this is not the misnomer called virtue that is seen in others which I believe is still seen by late fourth-density negative entities. In fourth-density negative, others are seen as minions by the more powerful. The minions are valuable because they can be controlled and the desires of the self can be disseminated, with more or less effort. Effort seems to imply struggle. Perhaps the needs of the minion(s) are not completely ignored so that there appear no undesired anomalies in the behavior of the controlled. In this way, both the master and the servant gain a fair share of increase in negative polarity, but one always stays on top of the other. This I believe is one method of energy harmonization which creates the opening for the merging of the social complex into a social memory complex, but as things and situations rearrange constantly, so do the energies rearrange, and therefore disharmony, the disintegration of the social memory complex follows.

Now, with wisdom the fifth-density negative entity realizes its self-sufficiency in the ways of thought and no longer needs other-selves as extensions of the Self. The struggle for power between other-selves is unnecessary because the real power is within the use of intelligent energy. Other-selves have become annoyances or obstacles on the path to the Creator. They are merely fools stumbling upon their own foolishness and they do not deserve help, nor is it optimal for those below to become more powerful than the Self.

Edit: actually, I found a good Ra quote to back me up:

(87.9)

...The fourth-density habit is that of offering temptations and of energizing pre-existing distortions. Fourth-density entities lack the subtlety and magical practice which the fifth-density experience offers.

So with this said, sjel, I think that those beyond the veil in the negative densities know unity very well, but their perspective of it is different. Or maybe they just do not care. They are the Creator. But it is also to be noted that experience is significantly different from density to density. The sixth-density negative being can progress no further after a certain point of awareness, because its experience is no longer separate from the experience of the other-self. There is then the great entropy in attempting to bring all that falsity, all that darkness and weight upon yourself. And because the level of comprehension in sixth-density is so wide and intense, you understand all of your experiences in space/time from that level of comprehension. No moment is lost in time. By further accelerating negative thought/action towards others, you are then 'killing' yourself and that can no longer be ignored. The STS ride can be fun and painful, but the power is so much!

Ps. then in the end you just forgive yourself for all that you have done and stop the wheel of karma