YinYa Wrote:Minya Wrote:I think I will bow out of this thread as we never come to find mutual understanding.
We won't come to a mutual understanding, and that's fine, you can of course believe anything you wish. It just doesn't make much sense to engage in a discussion on a forum where most everyone here believe Ra's version of events relating to the progression of the densities, when you believe otherwise.
While you say this again, I already stated that I do not believe to disbelieve these things as they were presented by Ra although my interpretation of this material and others differ from the understanding you have gained for yourself.
The quote does say the earth will harvest, but nowhere does it state that a 3D major cycle cannot be repeated like you seem to imply it does.
YinYa Wrote:And to skip back to romantic love which you also seem to have a problem with, well, romantic love is the norm amongst young lovers, which makes sense that it is used in an analogy. There are of course exceptions like asexual people, but it doesn't make much sense to use an exception to explain a concept. The exception does not negate the rule.
While I really don't have a thing against romantic love, this archetype speaks not of finding yourself a mate within this world but about unveiling portion of your mind, which is a tool of the mind.
Sexuality has little to do with the archetype (I am definitely not asexual anyway) and you are not really meant to develop sexual feelings for your High Priestess (unless it feels right to you) but instead seek to either interact with her through a positive focus of harmony where both yourself and your unconscious ressources are considered and evolve somewhat alongside, or through negative focus of disharmony where the High Priestess exists for yourself and your own will alone, to be used as you please while disregarding her wisdom and feelings. That is what I make of the analogy.
Romantic love or not, I have focused that the image represents a polarized relationship which I still haven't understood why you and jade felt like it takes everything away.
I think there is a reason why the first time Ra expanded upon the archetype it was said that the student of mysteries is transformed by a need to choose betwixt the light and dark in mind, whereas at a later time the more colorful analogy was given to further create a realization toward the archetype. I believe this means that what was first given is the most undistorted version whereas what was later given is the more useful version toward the receivers and some potential receivers.
I truly never did deny the duality presented anywhere within the description, and if to you to be positive is stictly contained within a romantic form of love, then it is all good for you, but I doubt it is realistic to expect each other person to attain a realization of this archetype based upon a romantic angle, While this did not prevent me from analyzing and understanding the archetype, perceiving why the image was given and what it hints toward, I can still understand that it's purpose is meant to hint more than fully contain, and that it is also given so that each ponders about and seek within.
Unlike what you seem to say, I do not disagree with what was given, nor do I think it is an unwell representation of what it speaks of. If you feel like everything I say is dissonant with the understanding that you found within yourself, that is well but you will not make me admit I disbelieve what is given by Ra when I don't.