(06-09-2016, 11:03 AM)YinYang Wrote:Minya Wrote:I think the channelings make it clear that if there was no wanderer incarnating, then the Gaia would not shift into 4D and the harvest would miss and the cycle repeat.
This is why I say you change things Ra has said, because this statement or understanding of yours is nowhere in the Ra material, it's your own invention. Then when I give you the Ra excerpt to point out your error, you answer in the most confusing and ambiguous way, that it actually makes no sense. Not only do you change a very basic understanding about the progression of the densities, you preamble it with "the channelings make it clear"...
I said channelings because I was not reffering to the Ra material but other things I often see get posted that talks about the harvest.
What I said about the quote you gave is that I don't think it contradicts what I said and that the stiking hour represents that the cycles has fixed extremes and not that it cannot repeat and strike the hour again. Just that it is the moment that will matter and yeah as of now I also don't think this planet will fail to harvest STO unless the opposite camp does something extreme to prevent it and shake this planet's entire vibration.
If we take the example of Mars, which seem to have been in an earlier cycle to this one, blowing up their atmosphere did seem to prevent any transition toward 4D from happening. Bit extreme but shows the inhabitants of the world do have an impact and are not external to it.