Time/Space: A mistake or not in 70.6/7 ?

[Bring4th_Austin]

Sean,

I'm putting this note at the top of the post so that it is duly noted. This is something that should have been cleared up a while ago, but just now in conversation with Gary was I struck with the clarity to make sure it was communicated. In the project with the new Ra Contact book, procedure will be to not change any of Ra's words directly, even in instances where they make corrections themselves. At most, footnotes will be added where mistakes and confusions are seen, just like on www.lawofone.info. I understand you may have been told differently, as there may have been some misunderstandings or miscommunication along the way in this editing process. However, rest assured that protocol at this point is to not change any of the text. This has always been the plan despite hiccups due to confusion.

This discussion you have brought up is interesting in its own right and relevant as to whether or not clarification is needed within the text itself (as a footnote). I understand and appreciate completely your concern that the text itself would be changed. I want to make sure its clear that at this point in time, there is no intention to do so. This book will undergo thorough editing and review to ensure this protocol and other important details are followed.

Just wanted to make that clear. I am sorry if you were lead to believe otherwise, and all of the work you have done to avert that. I hope this will ease some of your worry

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Then, let’s go to the question. In my opinion, you are correct in saying that the higher self is reluctant to have its "lower self" enter space/time. This is because, as Don put it in 69.14-15, the negative space/time environment would be an extremely difficult situation for the positively polarized entity and the learning process would be extremely traumatic.
 
But I think you may be incorrect in saying that the higher self itself isn’t reluctant to enter negative space/time, for the higher self may not have such a choice or opportunity for itself to enter negative space/time (and time/space). In other words, it seems to me that it's just impossible for the higher self itself to do that. So the higher self will not feel reluctant or unreluctant for itself to do that.

Yes, I agree. I was intending more about Ra's intended statement. Whether or not the higher self is reluctant to enter negative space/time itself is likely an illogical question.

(P.S. wherever Ra mentioned the higher self's reluctance, Ra was referring to the higher self's reluctance for its past self to do that. But Don considered the higher self's reluctance as the higher self's reluctance for itself to enter negative time/space.)

Yes, I do believe that this is the heart of the possible misunderstanding between Don and Ra.

When I initiated this thread, I was not sure whether Ra meant to say time/space or space/time in my original post when I mentioned this question:

It is indeed so that the condition in negative space/time for a positive mind/body/spirit is like a prison. It also makes sense that the condition in negative time/space for a positive mind/body/spirit is also like a prison (Where only darkness will be experienced. . . A barrier is automatically formed.(68.7))

Now, from my viewpoint, I tend to think that Ra meant to say time/space in 70.7, for the negative time/space environment is more like a prison. After all, in the negative space/time environment, the positive m/b/s can still “experience and learn from other-selves” (68.7), although “the process of learning the accumulated lessons of love of self may be quite lengthy” (69.11)

Prior to discussing this topic, I thought that the use of time/space in 70.7 always made perfect sense, always viewing the darkness referred to in 68.7 as that prison. However, I don't think it would be illogical if Ra did intend to say space/time. We cannot know what Ra truly intended in using prison as an analogy. In prisons, inmates are truly limited in their freedoms and social interaction is extremely different from life outside of prison, but they still have the opportunity for experience and learning from other-selves, so long as they are not in solitary confinement. It is in a limiting and harsh environment, perhaps much like a positive being would experience in negative space/time.

I do feel there is one inconsistency with Ra's use of time/space. That is the fact that the mind/body/spirit complex is already in negative time/space. It does not seem logical to me for Ra to state that it is reluctant to allow the mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative time/space when it is already there. fiatlux0 suggested Ra was not referring to the wanderer subject, which seems like a possible explanation, but I feel it is a less likely explanation. It does solve the problem though.

Then as you go one to point out, Ra went on to use time/space correctly in subsequent answers. Indicating a likelihood that they used it correctly in 70.7.

I am of the opinion that it will be impossible to completely untangle this confusion on our end. I feel any of the proposed possibilities presented here in this thread have a chance to be the explanation, but we cannot know for sure. Whether a footnote will be added is yet to be decided, and exactly how to word that footnote would be an extremely tricky endeavor. But this discussion certainly opens new understanding of these confusing passages.