Hi Austin,
Thank you so much for looking into this question and sharing your opinions on it. Honestly, I’m excited to discuss with you about this question.
Firstly, I’m very glad to know that you think I may be correct, for it suggests the opposite opinion may be wrong. As long as we cannot be sure which opinion is correct, the replacing t/s with s/t is not justified.
Then, let’s go to the question. In my opinion, you are correct in saying that the higher self is reluctant to have its "lower self" enter space/time. This is because, as Don put it in 69.14-15, the negative space/time environment would be an extremely difficult situation for the positively polarized entity and the learning process would be extremely traumatic.
But I think you may be incorrect in saying that the higher self itself isn’t reluctant to enter negative space/time, for the higher self may not have such a choice or opportunity for itself to enter negative space/time (and time/space). In other words, it seems to me that it's just impossible for the higher self itself to do that. So the higher self will not feel reluctant or unreluctant for itself to do that.
(P.S. wherever Ra mentioned the higher self's reluctance, Ra was referring to the higher self's reluctance for its past self to do that. But Don considered the higher self's reluctance as the higher self's reluctance for itself to enter negative time/space.)
Yeah, Don did misunderstand what Ra really meant, and Ra’s confirmation in 69.13 did not clear up Don’s thinking. I think there are two causes for this misunderstanding. Firstly, Ra used an elliptical sentence (omitting the object; that is, its past or lower self”) which left rooms for Don’s misinterpretation. Secondly, the fact that “the higher self is reluctant to have its lower self enter space/time” cannot solve the main confusion of Don (that is, why the displaced mind/body/spirit cannot simply be extracted from negative time/space to the home planet), whereas the higher self’s reluctance for itself to enter time/space seems to explain why that’s impossible.
So, up to this point, I think most of what you have said are correct.
As to Ra’s response in 70.7, a note is added today at the end of the original post to make the view of the editor clear.
When I initiated this thread, I was not sure whether Ra meant to say time/space or space/time in my original post when I mentioned this question:
Now, from my viewpoint, I tend to think that Ra meant to say time/space in 70.7, for the negative time/space environment is more like a prison. After all, in the negative space/time environment, the positive m/b/s can still “experience and learn from other-selves” (68.7), although “the process of learning the accumulated lessons of love of self may be quite lengthy” (69.11)
Finally, although I am not so sure, I feel that: as I replied to Jade in #4,
I think a very good example is in 70.14, where both Don and Ra used the words correctly in my eyes, and the negative "time/space" in the equation is what Ra and Don really meant, and other uses of time/space and space/time in this quote are correct.
I hope my reply makes sense to you. If there is any mistake in my reply or you have different views, please let me know. It's really my pleasure to discuss with you.
With love/light,
Sean
Thank you so much for looking into this question and sharing your opinions on it. Honestly, I’m excited to discuss with you about this question.
Firstly, I’m very glad to know that you think I may be correct, for it suggests the opposite opinion may be wrong. As long as we cannot be sure which opinion is correct, the replacing t/s with s/t is not justified.
Then, let’s go to the question. In my opinion, you are correct in saying that the higher self is reluctant to have its "lower self" enter space/time. This is because, as Don put it in 69.14-15, the negative space/time environment would be an extremely difficult situation for the positively polarized entity and the learning process would be extremely traumatic.
But I think you may be incorrect in saying that the higher self itself isn’t reluctant to enter negative space/time, for the higher self may not have such a choice or opportunity for itself to enter negative space/time (and time/space). In other words, it seems to me that it's just impossible for the higher self itself to do that. So the higher self will not feel reluctant or unreluctant for itself to do that.
(P.S. wherever Ra mentioned the higher self's reluctance, Ra was referring to the higher self's reluctance for its past self to do that. But Don considered the higher self's reluctance as the higher self's reluctance for itself to enter negative time/space.)
Yeah, Don did misunderstand what Ra really meant, and Ra’s confirmation in 69.13 did not clear up Don’s thinking. I think there are two causes for this misunderstanding. Firstly, Ra used an elliptical sentence (omitting the object; that is, its past or lower self”) which left rooms for Don’s misinterpretation. Secondly, the fact that “the higher self is reluctant to have its lower self enter space/time” cannot solve the main confusion of Don (that is, why the displaced mind/body/spirit cannot simply be extracted from negative time/space to the home planet), whereas the higher self’s reluctance for itself to enter time/space seems to explain why that’s impossible.
So, up to this point, I think most of what you have said are correct.
As to Ra’s response in 70.7, a note is added today at the end of the original post to make the view of the editor clear.
When I initiated this thread, I was not sure whether Ra meant to say time/space or space/time in my original post when I mentioned this question:
Quote:It is indeed so that the condition in negative space/time for a positive mind/body/spirit is like a prison. It also makes sense that the condition in negative time/space for a positive mind/body/spirit is also like a prison (Where only darkness will be experienced. . . A barrier is automatically formed.(68.7))
Now, from my viewpoint, I tend to think that Ra meant to say time/space in 70.7, for the negative time/space environment is more like a prison. After all, in the negative space/time environment, the positive m/b/s can still “experience and learn from other-selves” (68.7), although “the process of learning the accumulated lessons of love of self may be quite lengthy” (69.11)
Finally, although I am not so sure, I feel that: as I replied to Jade in #4,
Quote:If Ra did follow the errors Don made, we have to replace all of time/space and space/time that Ra said with space/time and time/space in several following answers to understand them before Ra detected this error. However, this may make more problems, for other uses of time/space and space/time by Ra is right.
I think a very good example is in 70.14, where both Don and Ra used the words correctly in my eyes, and the negative "time/space" in the equation is what Ra and Don really meant, and other uses of time/space and space/time in this quote are correct.
Quote:70.14 Questioner: Oh yes. Sorry about that. It slipped my mind. Now, if a positive entity is displaced to negative time/space I understand that the higher self is reluctant to enter the negative time/space. And for some reason this makes it necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time. Why is it necessary for this incarnation in negative space/time?
Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us remove the concept of reluctance from the equation and then secondly, address your query more to the point. Each time/space is an analog of a particular sort or vibration of space/time. When a negative time/space is entered by an entity the next experience will be that of the appropriate space/time. This is normally done by the form-making body of a mind/body/spirit complex which places the entity in the proper time/space for incarnation.
I hope my reply makes sense to you. If there is any mistake in my reply or you have different views, please let me know. It's really my pleasure to discuss with you.
With love/light,
Sean