Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS?

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This relates to a concept I've seen from several channeled sources & NDE reports.

The idea that individual human souls are part of a Soul Group.

Between incarnations, the Group decides on lessons the Group will learn. The Group decides which of its individual Souls will incarnate and focus on particular lessons. Those Souls incarnate and the remainder of the group stays in the spiritual, as spirit guides who influence events and try to communicate with those who have dropped below the Veil.

I don't recall if this is discussed by Ra.

I can see how you could draw a parallel to say, that's a socialistic soul group.

Is this the concept you had in mind?

By the way:

Ra: I am Ra. The result is difficult to transmit. It is 1,012, approximately. The entities who call are sometimes not totally unified in their calling and, thus, the squaring slightly less. Thus, there is a statistical loss over a period of call. However, perhaps you may see by this statistically corrected information the squaring mechanism.

This was post #1012 for me.

yes, and there are many more intricate concepts like increasing harmonization towards 6d, to the extent of even male/female distinction going away, and the integration of all parallel existences of an entity in 7d.

soul group, probably is another phenomenon. but, it is separate from the harmonization/positive polarity concept that is behind this conclusion.

I have thought sometimes that green ray is left wing, blue ray is right wing (because to make money for the community you do need business to bring it in.) and indigo is the fine balance we strike in getting it all right.

i dont thing such an easy distinction is possible. the principles inherent in 4d, apparently result in an extremely socialist situation, to the extent of even memories and emotions being shared, leave aside external objects.

this is probably as such in 5d society complexes still, but, there is the possibility of continuing 5d as an individual. ra dubs 5d as a quite free density.

'business' doesnt factor in at any point i think. because, you do not aim profit in any endeavor but negative endeavors. the act of creating objects or using resources always happens properly - you use up just as much as you need, and create as much as you need. you dont 'profit', because that is holding the energy from flowing, and would have immediate consequences in higher densities. its just slow in 3rd.

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I thought we had already settled this. We had already said that 4D socialism is possible with service oriented people becoming part of the government and hence no corruption.

This whole discussion is for 3D socialism which I said is impractical and you said quite possible.

So please do not muddle up the discussion by mixing these streams. Please go back and read again what we have already covered.

it is only impractical, because the current society is set up negatively, and it is almost impossible to make it go positive, peacefully. even in the last days of the protected timeline, the established system and its leashholders are not availing for any positivization of society, and hampering any attempts to do so, even if they cant totally prevent them.

how do you think the societies of lemura, atlantis were like ? how was the society of the entities harvested in the 2nd cycle ? do you think they had ownership, corporations, profit ?

it is practical in 3d. it is made hard to achieve in contemporary times. and when a country even wanders near the concept, immediate attacks from outside start. in 19th century it was direct invasion, in 20th century its bribery, election fraud, economic penalties, international pressure, even dirtier tricks.

just like how negative entities do not like and attack positivity wherever they can.

thinking 'it is impractical' and letting go of the responsibility is just comfortably leaving one's self in the arms of precisely what the controlling entities want.

Besides If we really are not concerend about what people wear then why are we trying to make them wear the same thing. Let them BE. It really does not matter...Even looking at abundance negatively is an attachment no less...

it really matters. first of all, nomatter what anyone thinks, there is a 51% requirement for positive emissions for positive 4d. that's that. one needs to fulfill these criteria to get to anywhere outside 3d. ideas dont matter, concepts dont matter, arguments, excuses, objections dont matter. there are rules and requirements for each density to happen. that is that simple.

one cannot come to 4d and go about setting up a company, 'own'ing resources and furthering myself, and then say 'but i love everything'. my 51% polarity would have gone to dustbin even before i reach to the point of saying that.

one cannot start a slaughterhouse and keep slaughtering animals to eat with like minded individuals, saying 'i just love it', sending insane ripples of pain to entire planetary consciousness in the process, and one can come up saying 'let them be'.

the 'cloth' issue is similar. an entity who would be similarly self-indulged like the above, without more concern for its environment and others than its self, would not be able to make it into 4d. therefore such concerns of 'everyone would wear the same thing !! individualism !!' would be totally null and irrelevant when talking about 4d. to enter 4d, one needs to let go of such childish concerns, and self indulgence even before qualifying for 4d.

jesus of nazareth didnt even have a NAME before coming to this planet. it is possible that, even his society complex doesnt have a name. like a lot of entities participating in channelings from other densities.

you are talking about 'ownership' and 'individualization' and 'clothes' for a density, in which entities do not even have names ....

i may let everyone be. you may let everyone be. however, that is not how it works. the qualifications for 4d graduation does not do as such. it requires certain characteristics.

it feels as if there are a lot of entities who take the 51% positive requirement like some abstract, faraway concept without immediate consequences for everything in one's life. like, they will do whatever they want, and live however they want, but as long as they say 'oh i just love everything', it will be ok.

it doesnt work like that. no kind of spiritual orientation can happen without being reflected in day to day actions of an individual.

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His (I assume) claim is that this kind of loving cooperation can and does occur in human 3D nations and societies. That many examples from history, and many current governments, show a socialistic mutual love.

leave aside our planet, a positive 3d society from sirius, if you remember from Ra text, was able to get near society complex stage in 3d, TWICE. the situation of all entities' memories and knowledge being shared, leave aside 'possessions'. they are the ones who came here all the way in a 3d vehicle, somehow without being hampered with rather hostile 3 d interstellar space, to get memories regarding war from charlie hixon's memory.

this shows, even more than sharing, equalistic, positive societies are possible in 3d. and i guess the boundary will be pushed even further as time passes in our galaxy.