(05-29-2016, 02:46 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:(05-29-2016, 02:33 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(05-29-2016, 01:44 PM)YinYang Wrote: Minyatur, I don't understand the motivation behind your post about what love is, with all the Quo etc. excerpts, when the archetype is about the distinction between love of self and love of others. It's like veering of into a discussion about what exactly direction is, when the topic under discussion is about the choice between East and West... of course love of self destroys.
Just that Love is much more abstract than what is expressed in this thread.
Love of self is not the only form of love that destroys. The earth/sun and other astral bodies went beyond our petty paradox of self love and love for others and still can offer both creation and destruction.
My example about the earth was this, a form of love that transcend all of our owns can offer the catalyst of earthquakes and such because it is what other-selves require for their experience. It does so selflessly and not our of love of self.
This entire Octave is an exploration of the Thought of Love, I really don't get why it seems that this abstract thought would not be known and felt differently by each infinite being that moves through an exploration of it.
I do not disagree with you about any of these things. The only thing I disagree about is that this has much relevance at all to the concept of green-ray, service-to-others love that we are trying to describe in the concept related to the Transformation of the Mind. There's a reason why we are using these concepts. You wouldn't want, say, your pet to be destroyed in an earthquake. Of course you will want it to experience what it desires but you will still mourn its loss and wish for its return at some point, because you are veiled and removed from it. And you wouldn't be the earthquake who destroyed him, would you, if there were plenty of other earthquakes to be had to cause the destruction that was needed? I see your point, but we are taking about engaging in positive service to others, which has specific gestalts for a reason. Sure, we can justify going out and performing murders because "that's the catalyst someone needs" and holding back food from the hungry because "that's the catalyst someone needs", but that's not the catalyst I want to be, and that's not the catalyst implied when Ra says courting and service-to-others.
I haven't spoke of justifying going to murder, but yeah if someone is within a configuration that requires him to do so, then yes you should find love in what that other-self is moving through although it is not your own distortions. And at some point that person will need to transmute all of this seemingly darkness into what it truly always was, light and love.
I spoke many times that we make polarized choice and that this is the center of the transformation of the mind. Just that what will be STO for you is not what will be STO for another, polarity is within intent and how we each distort our experiences within ourselves is extremely unique to each. You can do things that are polarizing to yourself, yet that if I would imitate you would be depolarizing to myself. Just as the other way around, just as this being the case with other people to which it'd be polarizing for both of us and not to another, just as another and not both to us, etc.