04-06-2009, 12:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-06-2009, 12:12 PM by Steppingfeet.)
Hi 3D Sunset, sorry if I had misunderstood the thrust of your post! I shall be more careful in this response.
By "sufficient love and light for the STS philosphy", do you mean the philosophy in the abstract, i.e.: absorbing the Creator's energy, linking red/orange/yellow and blue for contact with intelligent infinity, creating the potential for metaphysical work, etc., or do you mean sufficient love and light for the practitioners and advocates of service to self philosophy?
I ask because, as I ponder STS philosophy on a philosophical level, relaxed and curled up in a chair with a LOO book in hand, I can appreciate service to self in the abstract.
On the level of practical experience, however, when I encounter (what I consider to be) a service to self entity in the flesh, or service to self action, or learn of yet another service to self CEO or lawyer or corporation or politician, I find striking shortcomings in my love for the service to self path. (Which is, yes, a mirror showing to me reflections of myself which I have yet to accept and embrace.)
I believe that what you describe of your thought process is indeed a genuine movement in the direction of compassion. To place oneself in the shoes of another and find a corresponding likeness between self and other is to begin to open the heart to a viewpoint which transcends the personal self. That is, to begin to find compassion.
Though I believe reactions like fear, anger, and betrayal have their place and time, I agree with you in theory (now experiential practice is a whole other matter!) concerning the ascendancy of ideals such as love, compassion, and acceptance.
Some years back I was mired in my own interpersonal drama with an individual who I considered to be of mixed polarity. I had an "aha" moment when I realized that to become angry and defensive in response to this individual's actions was to play into this individual's hands. Though I had difficulty putting the "aha" into practice, because I still continued to become upset, I began to conceive of the possibility of rising above the drama by being non-reactive and giving only love in response.
On the metaphysical level, as we deal with discarnate negative entities, I believe that reactions such as you had - fear, anger, betrayal - serve to deliver us into the hands of the "loyal opposition". Now, to simply experience these energies of fear and anger that spontaneously arise within us with a view towards compassion, balance, and transcendence, is helpful, I believe. To, on the other hand, actively engage and indulge in heart-absent energies is to play the game of the negative entity, one which we, as positive entities, cannot win.
The "winning", so to speak, is done in moving in the direction which you describe, towards love, compassion, and acceptance. In terms of the metaphysical realm, this at once is our protection and means for own spiritual evolution.
Right on. This is why I believe that the word "understanding" is associated with the word "love" in the LOO books when Ra refers to the fourth density as the density of love or understanding. (I think Ra says "or" between love and understanding. Perhaps they use the word "and".)
The more deeply we can understand another entity on their own terms - i.e., what forces made them who they are, the pain and the suffering experienced during their journey - the more effortlessly we will be able to open our hearts to them, which is the beginning of the movement towards becoming one with that which was formerly misunderstood and perceived as separate.
Thank you for your kind thought! Steve, Monica, Carla, and I had some material to chew over, but in the process we had a wonderful opportunity to work together in harmony in order to preserve the awesomeness that is this forum. : )
Love and Light,
Gary
PS: Ayadew, Monica and I were indeed both joking. I can assure you that Ra never, ever used the term "butwad" in reference to service to self entities... or in any other form.
(04-03-2009, 09:39 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: Hi Gary, yes that was actually my point. I had thought that I had sufficient love and light for the STS philosophy...
By "sufficient love and light for the STS philosphy", do you mean the philosophy in the abstract, i.e.: absorbing the Creator's energy, linking red/orange/yellow and blue for contact with intelligent infinity, creating the potential for metaphysical work, etc., or do you mean sufficient love and light for the practitioners and advocates of service to self philosophy?
I ask because, as I ponder STS philosophy on a philosophical level, relaxed and curled up in a chair with a LOO book in hand, I can appreciate service to self in the abstract.
On the level of practical experience, however, when I encounter (what I consider to be) a service to self entity in the flesh, or service to self action, or learn of yet another service to self CEO or lawyer or corporation or politician, I find striking shortcomings in my love for the service to self path. (Which is, yes, a mirror showing to me reflections of myself which I have yet to accept and embrace.)
(04-03-2009, 09:39 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: Upon further contemplation of this, I realized that the STS greeter was simply following his own path with the same vim and vigor that I (at least in my distorted 3D mind) am following STO.
I believe that what you describe of your thought process is indeed a genuine movement in the direction of compassion. To place oneself in the shoes of another and find a corresponding likeness between self and other is to begin to open the heart to a viewpoint which transcends the personal self. That is, to begin to find compassion.
(04-03-2009, 09:39 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: But more than anything I realized that I did not sufficiently understand this path to properly balance the feelings of fear, anger and betrayal that the passage evoked with the appropriate weight of love, compassion and acceptance.
Though I believe reactions like fear, anger, and betrayal have their place and time, I agree with you in theory (now experiential practice is a whole other matter!) concerning the ascendancy of ideals such as love, compassion, and acceptance.
Some years back I was mired in my own interpersonal drama with an individual who I considered to be of mixed polarity. I had an "aha" moment when I realized that to become angry and defensive in response to this individual's actions was to play into this individual's hands. Though I had difficulty putting the "aha" into practice, because I still continued to become upset, I began to conceive of the possibility of rising above the drama by being non-reactive and giving only love in response.
On the metaphysical level, as we deal with discarnate negative entities, I believe that reactions such as you had - fear, anger, betrayal - serve to deliver us into the hands of the "loyal opposition". Now, to simply experience these energies of fear and anger that spontaneously arise within us with a view towards compassion, balance, and transcendence, is helpful, I believe. To, on the other hand, actively engage and indulge in heart-absent energies is to play the game of the negative entity, one which we, as positive entities, cannot win.
The "winning", so to speak, is done in moving in the direction which you describe, towards love, compassion, and acceptance. In terms of the metaphysical realm, this at once is our protection and means for own spiritual evolution.
(04-03-2009, 09:39 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: As with all things in life I've found that through better understanding another entity's position, I can more fully accept their differences as well as better clarifying my own position. Agreement is not a prerequisite for understanding.
Right on. This is why I believe that the word "understanding" is associated with the word "love" in the LOO books when Ra refers to the fourth density as the density of love or understanding. (I think Ra says "or" between love and understanding. Perhaps they use the word "and".)
The more deeply we can understand another entity on their own terms - i.e., what forces made them who they are, the pain and the suffering experienced during their journey - the more effortlessly we will be able to open our hearts to them, which is the beginning of the movement towards becoming one with that which was formerly misunderstood and perceived as separate.
(04-03-2009, 09:39 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: Finally, I'd like to thank you, Carla and the other moderators for your thoughtful investigation and consideration of how to address the concerns about this thread, rather than following the reflex reaction of simply expunging it.
Thank you for your kind thought! Steve, Monica, Carla, and I had some material to chew over, but in the process we had a wonderful opportunity to work together in harmony in order to preserve the awesomeness that is this forum. : )
Love and Light,
Gary
PS: Ayadew, Monica and I were indeed both joking. I can assure you that Ra never, ever used the term "butwad" in reference to service to self entities... or in any other form.
Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi