Courting the maiden

[Minyatur]

I'd think reverance and adoration are distortions of love and not love itself.

This is confusing too. What would you say are the positive attributes of universal love?

I think in it's purest form (as inspired by a Hatonn channeling), universal love is the desire of the Creator to know Itself. This then is distorted through the "color/song" of each's heart as part of self learning to know itself. To feel a need to heal others then is not universal love in itself, but instead more of a self need to act upon one's own inability to fully distill the experience of other-self within self and see the underlying love that already is inherently there.

Here I'd ask, do you believe that this attitude (of wanting to allevate the pain of others) is to be let go of somewhen when walking the steps of light? (Not necessarily as part of moving from 3D to 4D, who knows what lessons each of us are here to learn)

Ra saw fitting to materialize pyramids within this world yet not fitting to materialize food to those who are starving. And if I am wrong and that they did see it as fitting, then they were disallowed to by those who are of greater wisdom and love.

Yes, I think reverence and adoration are distortions of love, but I believe they are positive distortions of love. I'm saying -everything- should be elevated to what Ra calls the sacramental level, nothing above the self or anything else.

I don't think they are the only focus of positive distortions of love, but I do agree with bringing things to the sacramental level, just that this is more abstract than what has been expressed in this thread.

These are the feelings of affirmation that others seek from the Creator, or whatever they seek as divinity. Especially in contradiction to their 3rd density experience where they are belittled. This energy is the salvation of 3rd density. Why would you see it as a distortion, in this context?

I can safely affirm to you that not everyone desires compassion and love from others, I know some to whom affection from others makes them uneasy more than anything just as there are others it plainly hurts.

On my part I prefer to understand than to simply love, as such to me anyone at a step of their fate is there for a reason. I won't allow myself to change others' circumstances if I don't first seek to truly understand why they are where they are at. And here, I believe a person that needs a certain response to itself, will attract the right person to provide it. So I don't impose upon myself to be the answer to everyone that surrounds me.

Do you believe that each ,with an open and crystalized heart chakra, will feel the same as any other person? Or that each within many-ness will distort love into a personal feeling and then expression?

Well of course not, but I think everyone is capable of "falling in love", as that is the archetypical movement of energy we are discussing for a reason. You either know what it feels like to fall in love, or you have a distorted idea of it based upon media/society and not experience. I'm trying to describe the process one goes through when they decide to take the leap and fall in love with all of creation. I can tell you, that I don't believe that they will look at a hungry person and turn away with food in their hands to "teach them a lesson" if their heart-chakra is wide open.

I think the meaning of falling in love is highly personal and it can be blended in myriads of ways within the many-ness. I don't see what you described as without distortions, but instead your own unique way to filter love, which is based upon your background experience of love.

This entire Octave is meant to expand what love truly entails, so I am not sure it is all that well to try to confine this infinite thought within the finite definition that one can resonate with.

A wide-open heart chakra resonates with the martyr vibration. Do you understand what it feels like to be willing to martyr yourself for another our of love?
Haven't you ever had a pet? Or a grandparent who doted on you? Someone you adored and revered? How are these distortions of universal love?

I did experience all of this and do understand the martyr vibration, although I disagree that the heart chakra strictly resonate with this and that it denies your every other chakra.

In my view your chakras are there to channel the essence of your soul, so even if I remove all my earthly distortions and crystalize the heart of my soul within myself, I highly doubt it will be equivalent to your own. Everything you are is a mirror upon your past experiences, of which you are the harvest, and the way you describe your feeling of what love is does more to share in what ways you have experienced love within your soul than what love truly is.

a·dore
əˈdô(ə)r/
verb
love and respect (someone) deeply.
re·vere
rəˈvir/
verb
feel deep respect or admiration for (something).

So it looks like these words equate down to "respect". Do you consider respect for others a distortion?

Everything is a distortion.

Respect is more in alignment with my way of love and is a word I have used in this thread to define my relationship with my High Priestess.