as a simple example ;
a 4d society complex may be 95% positively polarized, but, may be ready for 5d harvest according to 5d criteria. another, may be 99% positively polarized, but may not still qualify for harvest in regard to 5d criteria.
if you put these society complexes to the postveil method used here, the 99% polarized one would stop closer to the light source than the 95% polarized one. if you put these on the preveil method, however, the 95% polarized one would stop in a further step than the 99% polarized one.
intensity/strength of light != vibration/frequency/quality.
this is why, the harvest method here cant be applied to higher density entities, which do not have polarization as a fundamental in their harvests. (leave aside society complex requirement). and since, there are no society complexes undergoing harvest on this planet atm, there cant be any harvest but 3d be done. (an exception here may be 5d harvest into 6d, but we have no information on that other than that it can be done individually, and polarity is not a factor).
the one exception is that, ra had said that they have came here from venus, 'wanting to be of service' (details unknown), and has remained in the 5d of this planet (earth) ever since then. however, as far as what we know, they are not undergoing harvest of their own. (6d).
i didnt have any near death experiences relevant to this subject to quantify my arguments. my arguments are based on what Ra said, as referenced above. you may have walked the steps of light. however, the harvest here, as explained, are being done according to strength of light in a straight line. this line, may be stepped. (actually it should be stepped, since intervals are trying to be determined in regard to polarization). however what is being measured, is the strength of light.
i have other experiences which may be parallel to these. however, they are personal and subjective, just like any personal experience, and cannot be shown/put forth as an argument to prove a point, against the material we have.
moreover, and more importantly, interpretation/subjective understanding of the experience would further complicate the problem.
you have walked the 'steps of light'. but, were you measured against the strength of light ? you went close to the light, and you have felt such abundant love and that. but, you would feel that love regardless of whether you were being placed on preveil quality of light steps, or, postveil strength of light line. because, if you are of love vibration, what you would feel, would be love, in either of the cases. subjectively, there may not be difference from the perspective of the entity at all. regardless of it is a step, or a light source, the entity will vibrate with the quality of energy it takes in. it is not a measure of polarity strength. (or strength of light that is).
lets say you have walked the quality of light steps. have you walked those steps on this planet ? how are you sure that, it did not happen a long time ago in a nonveiled planet, or, on another planet in the galaxy that doesnt employ a veil still ?
moreover, are you sure that, it was your own unique experience, unique in that you, as an individual fragment of your 7d totality, was the one experiencing it in this universe and reality, than, another carrie living in another parallel reality, in another universe ? ( one can refer to the subject of a 7d mind/body/spirit complex totality experiencing parallel existences as much as it needs according to its particular balance needs in Ra material - the more balanced the 7d totality is, the less need for experiencing parallel realities/universes).
no, we cant be really sure about that, because the experiences of self, are subjective and elusive. and cant be put forth as definite bulwarks to analyze.
that is why i am not dispensing any personal experiences.
it is also possible that, if you have been thinking that harvest is steps of light, your subconscious may have allowed the experience to slip to your conscious in the manner you would understand as such, or, it may have gotten automatically shaped as such while leaking.
a 4d society complex may be 95% positively polarized, but, may be ready for 5d harvest according to 5d criteria. another, may be 99% positively polarized, but may not still qualify for harvest in regard to 5d criteria.
if you put these society complexes to the postveil method used here, the 99% polarized one would stop closer to the light source than the 95% polarized one. if you put these on the preveil method, however, the 95% polarized one would stop in a further step than the 99% polarized one.
intensity/strength of light != vibration/frequency/quality.
this is why, the harvest method here cant be applied to higher density entities, which do not have polarization as a fundamental in their harvests. (leave aside society complex requirement). and since, there are no society complexes undergoing harvest on this planet atm, there cant be any harvest but 3d be done. (an exception here may be 5d harvest into 6d, but we have no information on that other than that it can be done individually, and polarity is not a factor).
the one exception is that, ra had said that they have came here from venus, 'wanting to be of service' (details unknown), and has remained in the 5d of this planet (earth) ever since then. however, as far as what we know, they are not undergoing harvest of their own. (6d).
(10-05-2010, 06:51 PM)carrie Wrote: I'm sorry.
Did you have any near death experiences to quantify your arguments?
I did walk on the steps of light and see no difference between the two things you mentioned. I think they are both same/similar.
i didnt have any near death experiences relevant to this subject to quantify my arguments. my arguments are based on what Ra said, as referenced above. you may have walked the steps of light. however, the harvest here, as explained, are being done according to strength of light in a straight line. this line, may be stepped. (actually it should be stepped, since intervals are trying to be determined in regard to polarization). however what is being measured, is the strength of light.
i have other experiences which may be parallel to these. however, they are personal and subjective, just like any personal experience, and cannot be shown/put forth as an argument to prove a point, against the material we have.
moreover, and more importantly, interpretation/subjective understanding of the experience would further complicate the problem.
you have walked the 'steps of light'. but, were you measured against the strength of light ? you went close to the light, and you have felt such abundant love and that. but, you would feel that love regardless of whether you were being placed on preveil quality of light steps, or, postveil strength of light line. because, if you are of love vibration, what you would feel, would be love, in either of the cases. subjectively, there may not be difference from the perspective of the entity at all. regardless of it is a step, or a light source, the entity will vibrate with the quality of energy it takes in. it is not a measure of polarity strength. (or strength of light that is).
lets say you have walked the quality of light steps. have you walked those steps on this planet ? how are you sure that, it did not happen a long time ago in a nonveiled planet, or, on another planet in the galaxy that doesnt employ a veil still ?
moreover, are you sure that, it was your own unique experience, unique in that you, as an individual fragment of your 7d totality, was the one experiencing it in this universe and reality, than, another carrie living in another parallel reality, in another universe ? ( one can refer to the subject of a 7d mind/body/spirit complex totality experiencing parallel existences as much as it needs according to its particular balance needs in Ra material - the more balanced the 7d totality is, the less need for experiencing parallel realities/universes).
no, we cant be really sure about that, because the experiences of self, are subjective and elusive. and cant be put forth as definite bulwarks to analyze.
that is why i am not dispensing any personal experiences.
it is also possible that, if you have been thinking that harvest is steps of light, your subconscious may have allowed the experience to slip to your conscious in the manner you would understand as such, or, it may have gotten automatically shaped as such while leaking.