05-17-2016, 03:59 PM
(05-17-2016, 03:32 PM)Night Owl Wrote: Funny how in this thread I can agree and disagree simultaneously with everybody. I think everybody is right and wrong.... in certain contexts. I don't think for exemple that we are here to change the earth but to love it, in which I would agree with minyatur but I also think the natural way of letting evolve and loving is not to close the heart on catalyst. It's all really so relative that at this point I don't really know what there is to argue. You are all relatively right and wrong and I love you wise people.
Yep I know what you mean, that's why I find it really hard to engage in conversations like this one (and why I actually avoided this forum for a while). Usually by offering an opinion you are distilling a thought into a slanted, polarized half-truth, and to make things more complicated everyone's opinion has at it's core some kernel of truth so I often find committing to a position in a debate somewhat of a losing battle. For example, I actually agree with a lot of Minyatur's points about letting things develop on their own and the idea of "you're here to love it, not to change it".
THAT SAID I feel that there is another side of that that is equally true, which is that by loving something, you do change it! Change is the only constant of the universe and that's because love is constantly driving the universe to transform. The Lovers is the transformation of the mind, and Death is the transformation of the body (i.e. transformation of the physical experience) and so we get the saying "find something you love and let it kill you".
To me taking a position where you are content to do nothing is a form of denial of the self because in being content to let others learn their own lessons you are denying yourself of the catalyst of helping them and at the same time you are denying them of the catalyst of being helped. There's no growth, no polarization, just the status quo.