04-05-2009, 01:50 PM
(04-05-2009, 11:50 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Thanks. I appreciate the good explanations. It's my understanding that these unmanifested layers are put into place through acts of will or choices. Choices made, in turn, provide opportunities for further choice. In this way we follow (are attracted to) the designs of the planet and of others, and of course, others may and do follow our designs. IMHO, this process can explain the nature of free will-vs-determinism problem.I think you're right. And like a true paradox it solves it without denying either.
(04-05-2009, 11:50 AM)zenmaster Wrote: So in some sense, a logos is an attractor that determines or influences a creative process such as our evolution. The stronger this influence with respect to our own free-will choices, the more deterministic our condition would seem to be (i.e. seen more as a reaction to an external force or plan ("God's plan") than a self-actualized plan). It certainly is a fool-proof system.Don't forget all the game playing though.
Our true free will is an expression of the planetary logo. Much in the same way our bodies are expressions of the human genome. But there is a lot of confusion on the city block level. It's a totally chaotic system. The attractors are really the only reason we're still going anywhere. 
(04-05-2009, 11:50 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I've noticed that when people become more honest and less fearful in their communication with others, they do seem to be able to "share the same mind". It seems that these limited intersubjective experiences must contribute to at least some of the apprehensions people have about a 4th density collective consciousness or SMC.It's not so much that we become drone worker bees subjective to the same overmind. Rather there is a vision and when we describe the vision we find that we see similar things.
Much like would happen when we stand on a mountain top and describe the area around us. I've also heard people describe their doubts about a loss of individuality. But there's really no such loss. We'll be as individual as we are now. We'll just become less confused about our actual differences. Seeing how others are really much more like us than we previously understood.
(04-05-2009, 11:50 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Also, when a person uses a similar conscious attitude with respect to the Earth itself, there does seem to be a shared "mind" between that person and the Earth. There does seem to be an informing, ontological-other "intelligence" available from the planet or planet-related field itself.Amen.
Good resonance here