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    04-19-2016, 12:57 PM (This post was last modified: 04-19-2016, 01:13 PM by APeacefulWarrior.)
    (04-19-2016, 09:32 AM)Rolci Wrote: Apart from that, I would like to return to my unanswered question that PW, even though s/he said it was "easy", managed to avoid answering:

    "How does a 4-6th D negative manipulate another in densities where thoughts are transparent and every attempt to manipulate and control is instantly seen as a trap and can be avoided?"

    Well, I answered the OTHER part of your question, about how Negatives deny Oneness.  Wink

    As I see it, honestly, the basic Negative methods can be seen here on Earth.  Promises of power.  Telling people what they want to hear.  Alliances formed despite knowing the near-certainty of backstabbing later.  Direct assertions of control of one over another via leverage.  "Betas" bowing to "Alphas."  That sort of thing.  Look at the internal politics of just about any large Corporation, or many governments, and you'll see the Negative process reflected.

    Beyond that, my understanding is that the Negative path is intensely hierarchical.  Having rejected Oneness/Unity, they instead embrace its far opposite: strict linearities, based largely on personal power.  One who is less-powerful than another understands it is his "place" to be below the stronger one, yet he chafes and steadily looks for opportunities to gain more power and move up the rank.  Plus below mid-5D, lacking Wisdom, they are likely to be very short-sighted in their self-serving efforts and blindly opportunistic, which is a state that is easily exploited by higher-density Negatives.

    (Geek references: like the relationship between Megatron and Starscream, or between the Master and Apprentice of the Sith.)

    Ra references these dynamics at a few points, such as in 7.15 when he said "the problem of spiritual entropy causes [Negative S/M/Cs] to experience constant disintegration of their social memory complexes."  The spiritual entropy he refers to is, essentially, their endless internal squabbling and "political" maneuvering for power plays, which consumes much of the group's energy and makes it difficult for a Negative S/M/C or other group to stay focused on a task.  Again, much like human endeavors attempted by the power-hungry.

    If you're honestly curious about the Negative mindset -not that I'm advising you dabble- my best advice would be to read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged."  While I can't prove it, I have a STRONG feeling she was one of those very few Negative 6D Wanderers of whom Ra refused to speak.  (After all, she was still alive when he was being actively channeled.)  Her philosophy as expressed in Shrugged seems a near-perfect match for everything Ra and other sources have said about the Negative path, especially her exultation of Self and Self-ishness as the highest of ideals combined with her absolute seething disdain for any sort of "collectivism." This belief is also reinforced through various aspects of her own life, and how she treated her followers, but that's another long story.

    A critical reading of Shrugged, looking at her logical\tautological games and the various sleights-of-hand she uses to justify her protagonists' outrageous behavior as "heroic" would, I think, shed much light on the Negative mindset in general.

    (But, as always, beware looking too deeply into the abyss...)
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    The "withheld" topic - by Rolci - 04-15-2016, 07:21 PM
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