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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ?

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    10-03-2010, 02:33 PM
    I realize the "king of the world" comment was in jest, but making anyone king of anything seems like a bad idea to me. This is my own personal opinions.

    People polarizing towards STO have longed for 4D+ harmony throughout history. People polarizing towards STS have longed for 4D- centralization of power. Both have tried to create their own version of heaven on earth (or "the other next place" on earth). Both have made up all kinds of man-made systems for politics and economics.

    ALL of these systems are mediocre attempts to implement something from beyond 3D that just can't be done in 3D. ALL politics and economics are, pale shadows imitating a greater spiritual reality.

    At best, they are tools for a little bit of positive cooperation, a tiny fraction of the way 4D+ harmony brings effortless united action in a way we can only begin to imagine. 4D+ is more joyously loving together, more harmoniously cooperative than we can comprehend this side of the Veil.

    At worst, they are tools for a little bit of despotic manipulations, a larger fraction of the way 4D- tries to gain power by subverting individuals into a single focus of free will by those at the top. 4D- is far more ruthless, controlling and controlled than we can really comprehend on this side of the Veil.

    There is absolutely nothing that people can do to make heaven on earth through cleaning up politics and getting together with the best economic system. The human desire to transcend 3D and move to something more positive has been misplaced.

    This desire should best be used by each person as energy for their own spiritual growth, their own evolution. As they become stronger, more centered in their Choice, they are better able to reach out, link in, attract and join others of the same polarity. This may or may not happen through anything recognizable as politics or economics.

    The vast majority of our planet's political, economic or financial systems were deliberately conceived in hateful inequity by a viciously domineering elite. Various lies were made up to tell the people about God, News, Justice, Religion, Defense, Security, Patriotism and Guidance. These lies were used to get positive and undecided people to be tricked into relinquishing their own free will through an emotional appeal that actually makes no sense.

    Or these systems were co-opted and perverted by them after a positively inspired start.

    The ultimate conspiracy theory is simple: STS people, in their drive to fulfill 4D- on earth, will make a manipulative, backstabbing, hidden conspiracy of elite arrogance ANY chance they get, no matter how noble the original design was, with ANY opportunity to build or take over a pyramid of power against their fellow men. There is always "one last snake in the grass" to expose, and we'll never be rid of them, this side of the Veil or Harvest.

    Therefore it is far more likely today that negatively polarized, STS people will find their fulfillment in these power bases. Yes, a positive loving heart of service can do some good through politics. But there are many other equally powerful ways to good, and most don't require paddling upstream.

    In my own opinion, u100, your desire for the blessings of socialism to enlighten the whole world shows a sincere caring about justice, balance and love. I respect that you have thought things through. I respect that you feel socialism, as that word means something to you, is by far the best political and economic system man has yet invented. But I believe the goal of harmonious human life can never be fulfilled by ANY type of politics and economics. It can only be met by humans who are harmonious inside their own spirits, and then reach out to choose for themselves their own new way to work together.

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    unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by carrie - 09-25-2010, 10:53 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-30-2010, 01:10 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-01-2010, 10:32 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 10:55 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-01-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 12:32 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-01-2010, 01:11 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 01:33 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-01-2010, 08:30 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-02-2010, 09:51 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-02-2010, 03:31 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-02-2010, 05:11 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-02-2010, 08:47 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-02-2010, 11:00 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-03-2010, 07:43 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 12:20 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-03-2010, 03:11 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-01-2010, 12:05 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 02:33 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 02:59 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 04:16 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 05:26 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 08:41 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-03-2010, 09:17 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 09:38 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 10:08 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 10:52 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 11:19 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-04-2010, 02:08 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-04-2010, 05:03 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-04-2010, 05:49 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-04-2010, 07:54 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-05-2010, 03:49 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 04:31 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-05-2010, 06:34 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 07:19 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-05-2010, 09:20 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 11:28 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-04-2010, 10:59 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-04-2010, 12:19 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-04-2010, 01:27 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Ali Quadir - 10-04-2010, 09:51 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 01:05 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-05-2010, 01:37 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Ali Quadir - 10-05-2010, 01:57 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 02:36 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-05-2010, 01:15 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Poffo - 10-05-2010, 05:30 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 01:55 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-05-2010, 09:43 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Crimson - 10-05-2010, 11:30 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-06-2010, 09:36 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 11:37 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Crimson - 10-06-2010, 12:01 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-06-2010, 12:26 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-06-2010, 12:29 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Namaste - 10-07-2010, 04:32 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by irpsit - 10-09-2010, 05:52 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Aaron - 09-25-2010, 11:00 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-25-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by thefool - 09-26-2010, 12:25 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-26-2010, 05:26 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-26-2010, 11:12 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Peregrinus - 09-27-2010, 12:43 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-27-2010, 02:33 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Etude in B Minor - 09-27-2010, 07:26 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by peelstreetguy - 09-27-2010, 08:39 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-28-2010, 02:36 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-28-2010, 10:45 AM
    Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by carrie - 09-28-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by peelstreetguy - 09-28-2010, 12:30 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by CircleofOne - 09-28-2010, 05:08 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Etude in B Minor - 09-28-2010, 06:59 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by AnthroHeart - 09-29-2010, 09:22 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Ali Quadir - 09-28-2010, 11:52 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Etude in B Minor - 09-28-2010, 06:55 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-29-2010, 06:21 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-29-2010, 08:51 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-29-2010, 09:41 PM

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