Well, the "harvest" from the previous Octave were the concepts of the Matrix, Potentiator and the Significator, as well as the understanding of the efficiency of experience through Mind, Body and Spirit. This suggests to me that these concepts are fairly inherent in all experience, but we have to remember that it is the Creator which experiences through Mind, Body and Spirit.
However, it appears to me that the Creator is formless and only appears to be embodied in the focal point we know as the Logos. It is ourselves as a Logos (sub-logoi currently) which is within ourselves as that which "embodies" or shall we say, experiences time/space and space/time. At first I thought everything and every point of space and time was the same essentially, but I think that there is actually only one point and all others are holographic images within it.
So, I think it appears to me maybe the better way to approach describing incarnation is to attempt to establish the difference in conditions between seemingly 'disembodied' states and states which occur within a bodily form. To me this bridges the gap between the ideas of incarnation where it is more the process of shifting the focus of one's being in to another vibrational level entirely, as opposed to a projection of the mind/spirit. So an entity which exists in a light, sixth density body coming down in to a lower density body would essentially be incarnating upon that lower plane and then they would experience the corresponding space/time. From that point, while incarnate in a lower density time/space, they can incarnate then in to space/time.
It's just a dream within a dream within a dream. I think I get it now. Incarnation is, I think, the process of activation of the bodies which is the movement of the "self" which is the focus of the Logos which the M/B/S Complex Totality is united with. The self is the focus and it moves first with guidance and guardianship until eventually it moves entirely on its own. By move, I mean direct its focus. So I think whenever the self is translated to a lower density (whereas moving upwards is "graduation") it is incarnation, which is then completed in the then incarnation and manifestation in to space/time. When the self is already focused in a particular density then you only do the latter part. You'd be incarnating twice. Once you have incarnated from higher density to lower you are then focused there, so that is your "home point", and then you incarnate in to the space/time equivalent of the time/space you have moved in to.
From Ra's perspective I think any change of density, particularly in to 'lower' ones, would necessitate incarnation and so could be construed as the same thing. However, again, it requires a change in activation of body. Higher density beings can easily just project themselves or materialize but actual translation in to another density requires incarnation I think. By that same token, I think that once a Wanderer eventually finishes wandering the lower densities they eventually come back to their original state and have the same kind of 'life review' as you would have after a 'regular' incarnative experience, except it would be focused on all the lives that had been lived.
However, it appears to me that the Creator is formless and only appears to be embodied in the focal point we know as the Logos. It is ourselves as a Logos (sub-logoi currently) which is within ourselves as that which "embodies" or shall we say, experiences time/space and space/time. At first I thought everything and every point of space and time was the same essentially, but I think that there is actually only one point and all others are holographic images within it.
So, I think it appears to me maybe the better way to approach describing incarnation is to attempt to establish the difference in conditions between seemingly 'disembodied' states and states which occur within a bodily form. To me this bridges the gap between the ideas of incarnation where it is more the process of shifting the focus of one's being in to another vibrational level entirely, as opposed to a projection of the mind/spirit. So an entity which exists in a light, sixth density body coming down in to a lower density body would essentially be incarnating upon that lower plane and then they would experience the corresponding space/time. From that point, while incarnate in a lower density time/space, they can incarnate then in to space/time.
It's just a dream within a dream within a dream. I think I get it now. Incarnation is, I think, the process of activation of the bodies which is the movement of the "self" which is the focus of the Logos which the M/B/S Complex Totality is united with. The self is the focus and it moves first with guidance and guardianship until eventually it moves entirely on its own. By move, I mean direct its focus. So I think whenever the self is translated to a lower density (whereas moving upwards is "graduation") it is incarnation, which is then completed in the then incarnation and manifestation in to space/time. When the self is already focused in a particular density then you only do the latter part. You'd be incarnating twice. Once you have incarnated from higher density to lower you are then focused there, so that is your "home point", and then you incarnate in to the space/time equivalent of the time/space you have moved in to.
From Ra's perspective I think any change of density, particularly in to 'lower' ones, would necessitate incarnation and so could be construed as the same thing. However, again, it requires a change in activation of body. Higher density beings can easily just project themselves or materialize but actual translation in to another density requires incarnation I think. By that same token, I think that once a Wanderer eventually finishes wandering the lower densities they eventually come back to their original state and have the same kind of 'life review' as you would have after a 'regular' incarnative experience, except it would be focused on all the lives that had been lived.