(09-30-2010, 07:16 PM)unity100 Wrote: still missing the fact that, an entity that lowers its polarity and vibration to 3d for any reason, becomes a 3d entity. and therefore, harvest logic and rules would have to apply for it. all the quotes shown for there being a harvest for wanderers too, come after where Ra said 'If the Wanderer entity demonstrated through action a negative orientation towards other-selves it would be as we have said before, caught into the planetary vibration and'.
Please read Section 89 beginning with 89.31: After reading, how would one then explain that these entities of Venus (see below) who were STO Wanderers from 5D were not only not entrapped into a negative 3D planet as a result of inadvertently switching their polarities unbeknownst to themselves while in 3D, but were indeed harvested into the next higher vibration of 4D? The answer seems clear enough. They were Harvested. A Harvest took place wherein they met the light at the level they were at, which was not of the same plane they wandered into at 3D, but was into the next higher plane of 4D, albeit negative.
89.31 Wrote:Questioner: What techniques did the two negatively harvested entities use for negative polarization upon such a positively polarized planet?
Ra: I am Ra. The technique of control over others and domination unto the physical death was used in both cases. Upon a planetary influence much unused to slaughter these entities were able to polarize by this means. Upon your third-density environment at the time of your experiencing such entities would merely be considered, shall we say, ruthless despots which waged the holy war.
89.32 Questioner: Did these two entities evolve from the second density of the planet Venus along with the rest of the population of Venus that became Ra from second density to third?
Ra: I am Ra. No.
89.33 Questioner: What was the origin of the two entities of which you speak?
Ra: I am Ra. These entities were Wanderers from early positive fifth density.
89.34 Questioner: And though they had already evolved through a positive fourth density they, shall we say, switched polarity in the reincarnating in third density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
89.35 Questioner: What was the catalyst for their change?
Ra: I am Ra. In our peoples there was what may be considered, from the viewpoint of wisdom, an overabundance of love. These entities looked at those still in darkness and saw that those of a neutral or somewhat negative viewpoint found such harmony, shall we say, sickening. The Wanderers felt that a more wisdom-oriented way of seeking love could be more appealing to those in darkness.
First one entity began its work. Quickly the second found the first. These entities had agreed to serve together and so they did, glorifying the One Creator, but not as they intended. About them were soon gathered those who found it easy to believe that a series of specific knowledges and wisdoms would advance one towards the Creator. The end of this was the graduation into fourth-density negative of the Wanderers, which had much power of personality, and some small deepening of the negatively polarized element of those not polarizing positively. There was no negative harvest as such.
89.36 Questioner: What was the reason for the wandering of these two Wanderers, and were they male and female?
Ra: I am Ra. All Wanderers come to be of assistance in serving the Creator, each in its own way. The Wanderers of which we have been speaking were indeed incarnated male and female as this is by far the most efficient system of partnership.
89.37 Questioner: As a wild guess, one of these entities wouldn’t be the one who has been our companion here for some time would it?
Ra: I am Ra. No.
89.38 Questioner: Then from what you say I am guessing that these Wanderers returned or wandered to Ra’s third density possibly to seed greater wisdom in what they saw as an overabundance of compassion in the Ra culture. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect in the sense that before incarnation it was the desire of these Wanderers only to aid in service to others. The query has correctness when seen from the viewpoint of the Wanderers within that incarnation.
89.39 Questioner: I just can’t understand why they would think that a planet that was doing as well as the population of Venus was doing as far as I can tell would need Wanderers in order to help with the harvest. Was this at an early point in Ra’s third density?
Ra: I am Ra. It was in the second cycle of 25,000 years. We had a harvest of six out of thirty, to speak roughly, of millions of mind/body/spirit complexes, less than 20%. Wanderers are always drawn to whatever percentage has not yet polarized, and come when there is a call. There was a call from those which were not positively polarized as such but which sought to be positively polarized and sought wisdom, feeling the compassion of other-selves upon Venus as complacent or pitying towards other-selves.
89.40 Questioner: What was the attitude of these two entities after they graduated into-fourth density negative and, the veil being removed, realized that they had switched polarities?
Ra: I am Ra. They were disconcerted.
89.41 Questioner: Then did they continue striving to polarize negatively for a fifth-density harvest in the negative sense or did they do something else?
Ra: I am Ra. They worked with the fourth-density negative for some period until, within this framework, the previously learned patterns of the self had been recaptured and the polarity was, with great effort, reversed. There was a great deal of fourth-density positive work then to be retraced.
Does this in any manner cause you to rethink that wanderers do not undergo harvesting, given these wanderers were not trapped into the plane of 3D which they entered into, but did indeed graduate by virtue of harvesting into the next higher plane of 4D? Presumably had they depolarized slightly, but remained STO, they may have graduated into 4D positive, rather than remain at 3D, while certainly also not being able to return to 5D positive. They Harvested from 3D to 4D.
Ra clearly agreed with the term here that they graduated, i.e. were harvested.
Questioner:What was the attitude of these two entities after they graduated into-fourth density negative and, the veil being removed, realized that they had switched polarities?
Ra: I am Ra. They were disconcerted.
Wanderers are harvested by this quote, just as are all entities on any level, regardless of their status.
~ Q ~