09-30-2010, 04:47 PM
(09-28-2010, 11:38 AM)ricdaw Wrote: So Ra says that Wanderer are harvested, whether there is a need or not.
On the other hand, if harvest were not involved, it does appear that the Wanderer goes home after 3d death (as you believe Unity):
unity Wrote:you are missing a fine detail :
[quote=Ra:] I am Ra. If the Wanderer entity demonstrated through action a negative orientation towards other-selves it would be as we have said before, caught into the planetary vibration and, when harvested, possibly repeat again the master cycle of third density as a planetary entity.
The quote was incomplete above. See bolded text. Clearly there is a harvest, whether for better or for worse, as you suggest ricdaw as a measuring process, less there would be no harvest. See further below quotes to verify same.
(09-30-2010, 11:19 AM)ricdaw Wrote: I agree, Unity. I guess my point is that harvest is the way polarity/vibration is measured. So, a wanderer still goes thru harvest (the measurement process) to see whether/if the wanderer “hasn’t changed its core vibrations” or has changed them.
If still-positive polarized wanderers gets to skip harvest at death, it would mean that there is an extra-special harvest just for them. First, a “preview” harvest to see if the wanderer has changed vibration, if not then back to the home vibration. If so, send the wanderer to “regular” harvest for an assessment. Seems a bit illogical.
Just guessing, but I think the Guardians would simply measure everyone at harvest (including Wanderers) and let the chips fall where they may.
It seems there may be a misunderstanding of when harvests take place, as much as perhaps a truer definition of what a harvest is.
Questioner Wrote:: How did Taras Bulba, Genghis Khan, and Rasputin get harvested prior to the harvest?The implication herein is that those of STO orientation who could harvest "now", elect instead to remain to serve, though they could in fact move forward prior to the grand harvest. Thus, harvest is harvest, whether in this moment, or the next. Although unknown, it seems likely that some STO oriented entities at some point in the history of 3D may have elected to move forward as well for whatever reasons. Harvest is simply making the grade, as it were, whether earlier or later, as opposed to restricting it to a special time frame per se, notwithstanding that the grand harvest occurs every 25,000 years, whether successful or not.
Ra: I am Ra. It is the right/privilege/duty of those opening consciously the gate to intelligent infinity to choose the manner of their leaving of third density. Those of negative orientation who so achieve this right/duty most often choose to move forward in their learn/teaching of service to self.
Questioner Wrote:: Going back to when we started this 75,000 year period, there was a harvest 25,000 years after the start which would make it 50,000 years ago. Can you tell me how many were harvested at that time?
Ra: I am Ra. The harvest was none.
Questioner: There was no harvest? What about 25,000 years ago?
Ra: I am Ra. A harvesting began taking place in the latter portion, as you measure time/space, of the second cycle, with individuals finding the gateway to intelligent infinity. The harvest of that time, though extremely small, was those entities of extreme distortion towards service to the entities who were now to repeat the major cycle. These entities, therefore, remained in third density although they could, at any moment/present nexus, leave this density through use of intelligent infinity.
Questioner: Then in the harvest 25,000 years ago, the entities who could have been harvested into the fourth density chose to remain here in service to this planetary population. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Thus, there was no harvest, but there were harvestable entities who shall choose the manner of their entrance into fourth dimension.
It stands to reason that if a 6D entity were to become entrapped into 3D and therefore become un-harvestable as result, that they to the converse are certainly harvested/harvetsable if they have not become entrapped into 3D. 6D harvests, as a measure, etc. Harvest moreover is not done "to one", as though a pass or a failure, but is in fact in a sense carried out "by one" as an act of choice by each entity upon harvest. Here then is the true definition of Harvest below:
Ra Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. The Law of One states simply that all things are one, that all beings are one. There are certain behaviors and thought-forms consonant with the understanding and practice of this law. Those who, finishing a cycle of experience, demonstrate various grades of distortion of that understanding of thought and action will be separated by their own choice into the vibratory distortion most comfortable to their mind/body/spirit complexes. This process is guarded or watched by those nurturing beings who, being very close to the Law of One in their distortions, nevertheless have the distortion towards active service.
Thus, the illusion is created of light, or more properly but less understandably, light/love. This is in varying degrees of intensity. The spirit complex of each harvested entity moves along the line of light until the light grows too glaring, at which time the entity stops. This entity may have barely reached third density or may be very, very close to the ending of the third-density light/love distortion vibratory complex. Nevertheless, those who fall within this octave of intensifying light/love then experience a major cycle during which the opportunities are many for the discovery of the distortions which are inherent in each entity and, therefore, the lessening of these distortions.
Where unity is correct is that they of 6D may elect to return to their home density of 6D, unless of course they choose to go to another 3D planet after this one goes 4D for the same reasons of answering yet another call which for all we know has a harvest coming up within one to several lifetimes. Who may know these answers. They are offered merely to titillate more than to answer. Where it seems unity is incorrect and states otherwise, is that 6D does indeed Harvest, as it must, and in fact elects so by its own free will and volition, by the measure of its own light. "The spirit complex of each harvested entity moves along the line of light until the light grows too glaring, at which time the entity stops." This is Harvest = Light. If the Wanderer has lost in polarity = light, it elects by choice to stop at the light level it is at, and not to harvest. Barring that which is beyond polarity, it would seem all entities through their evolutionary process are consistently and infinitely Harvesting from the beginning to the end, regardless of present density or past density, or as Wanderers. It may thus be said that the 6D Wanderer has chosen the peril to re-harvest now, or to fail in the harvest of now, only to alas re-harvest later.
~ Q ~