A Friendly Conversation: Exploring Omnivorous vs. Vegetarian Diet

[Diana]

Whoa......You know what I mean by "militant" vegans. These are the ones who instead of just not buying meat products and minding their own business, feel the need to take matters into their own hands and prove how morally superior they are to others, and will march and protest in front of a Tyson factory or something of that nature to make a point. Does it actually achieve anything in the long run? No, you just piss off employees trying to get to work...

Actually I don't know what you mean by militant vegans, though I get that some people go to extreme lengths to save other life forms from suffering, just as some people went to great lengths to stop the sufferings of slavery. I don't blame them at all (though I personally don't want to be an activist). They are simply trying to end needless suffering.

I don't watch popular media so I don't know what you mean about a Tyson factory. But if you look at history, these sorts of protests do have an effect actually, if only to bring awareness to the general public. I'm sure the general public was appalled by womens' and African American rights to vote at the time. But we changed into a more compassionate society as a result.

It's not about being morally superior. It's about stopping needless suffering. The "morally superior" assumption is a judgment on your part I would imagine. I can tell you that anyone who truly is fighting for the end of animal suffering doesn't care at all about their own ego in the matter because their hearts are breaking at the suffering.

...and I guess now according to you, I'm gonna get gunned down because I bought a cheap low quality burger at some fast food joint. lol. Just messing with ya.

And I was "messing with you" with a little sarcasm. I was amused at the adjective "dangerous."

These are the same people who crash military funerals because they think soldiers and the military are evil. And thats crossing the line.

This is quite an assumption. Is this a fact?

As an aside, I wouldn't use the word "evil," but of course the military is horrible in the extreme—people shooting, maiming, and killing each other over nonsensical BS invented by those "in power." If anything, and the threat of religious groups is real, we could spend our considerable energy and money on defense rather than offense. Crashing a funeral does not seem like a good way to raise awareness.

People avoiding meat for ethical, religious, or health reasons is their choice, which is noble and I admire that. But keep it to yourself. I'm certainly not going to stop you. If you believe its wrong and unhealthy, then don't eat it. But when a vegan says I'm evil and uncompassionate for eating meat, well thats crossing the line.

Has a vegan told you were evil? If a vegan told you were not compassionate regarding meat animals because you consume factory-farmed meat, that, arguably, is not out of line. If you truly felt that compassion for the animals, then why would you continue to support such a system?

I personally don't care what choices you make, while at the same time wishing this world had less needless suffering. This is perhaps my own foible according to the Law of One. But is there anyone here who wishes no one had intervened in the slaughter of Jews in Nazi Germany, or the abolition of slavery in the U.S.?

Same thing as Christian telling me I'm a bad person and going to Hell because I don't believe in Jesus. Would you want someone preaching to you about Jehovah, or how you need Jesus Christ in your life? Probably not.

It's not the same.  Someone witnessing about their religion is not the same as someone trying to save the lives of suffering sentient beings. I don't really think I need to spell out why.