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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ?

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    09-25-2010, 11:36 AM
    These are my own personal opinions. There's no channeled divine source for my interpretations. I hope you enjoy them and find them useful. If not, just replace them with whatever ideas you like better.

    I think most national concepts will be irrelevant in a positive 4D world.

    Let me make a comparison to technology.

    Centuries ago, a blacksmith could make horseshoes. A navigator could use an astrolabe. To move the most cargo you raise the sails. Today it is still possible to get horseshoes, astrolabes, and sails. But they are mostly irrelevant for those original purposes.

    Today humanity is more likely to move cargo in container ships or railroads, to find a position using GPS, to cross town in a car or subway.

    Some people use antique craftsmanship of blacksmithing and sailing ships. It is just for the joy of working with their hands. The traditions are carried on. Today's transportation economy no longer depends on the supply of horseshoes. But you can become an apprentice blacksmith and learn to make horseshoes by hand, if you like.

    I think a 4D world will see today's nations in the same way. A few valuable antiques, some very nice traditions, and a lot of old junk.

    The modern nation-state is a human invention of the last few hundred years. Look at what it is supposed to do, that justifies its existence. Protect people from outside aggression. Maintain safety and order. Establish rules and standards. Take away from those who have too much and give to those who need more. A positive 4D world of ascended humans would not need to rely on the old institutions for these purposes. Just like we still need to move cargo, but have more efficient systems than sailing ships.

    Meanwhile the hidden purposes of nations, to serve bankers, royal families, hidden elites, to put arrogant self-serving vicious manipulators on top of the pyramid, will collapse. These also have no value in a positive 4D world.

    I think we will still enjoy some of the traditions, history and positive ideas associated with nations. The Library of Congress might remain the world's best depository of ideas, by voluntary agreement of people around the world. Geneva might still be a center for independent federations to agree on diplomacy and store gold. People still might like to visit Peru to visit the Incas. People who live in Perus may still want to call the place Peru and continue their excellent food, music, clothes, dances etc. under their own self-direction. Will they still want all their same government institutions they have today? Maybe not.

    Since "national security" concepts won't matter any more, regions, states and cities might split off to a size that is more manageable. Boundaries might get redrawn based on shared geography or culture, not on what invaders and colonizers decided abstractly a century ago.

    Hawaii might choose to be its own nation again. Same with Quebec. Tibet and Taiwan would definitely choose to have their own leadership. There might also be mergers. Perhaps people in Australia and New Zealand would prefer a unified nation that includes a continent and several islands.

    All of these choices will be local, not coerced with any more sanctions or "peacekeeping" violence. The U.N. as an institution will become irrelevant, its NYC headquarters subdivided for condos.

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    unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by carrie - 09-25-2010, 10:53 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-30-2010, 01:10 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-01-2010, 10:32 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 10:55 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-01-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 12:32 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-01-2010, 01:11 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 01:33 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-01-2010, 08:30 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-02-2010, 09:51 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-02-2010, 03:31 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-02-2010, 05:11 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-02-2010, 08:47 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-02-2010, 11:00 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-03-2010, 07:43 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 12:20 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-03-2010, 03:11 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-01-2010, 12:05 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 02:33 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 02:59 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 04:16 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 05:26 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 08:41 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-03-2010, 09:17 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 09:38 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 10:08 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-03-2010, 10:52 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-03-2010, 11:19 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-04-2010, 02:08 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-04-2010, 05:03 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-04-2010, 05:49 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-04-2010, 07:54 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-05-2010, 03:49 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 04:31 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-05-2010, 06:34 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 07:19 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-05-2010, 09:20 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 11:28 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-04-2010, 10:59 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-04-2010, 12:19 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-04-2010, 01:27 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Ali Quadir - 10-04-2010, 09:51 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 01:05 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-05-2010, 01:37 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Ali Quadir - 10-05-2010, 01:57 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 02:36 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-05-2010, 01:15 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Poffo - 10-05-2010, 05:30 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 01:55 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-05-2010, 09:43 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Crimson - 10-05-2010, 11:30 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by thefool - 10-06-2010, 09:36 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 11:37 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Crimson - 10-06-2010, 12:01 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Questioner - 10-06-2010, 12:26 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by unity100 - 10-06-2010, 12:29 PM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by Namaste - 10-07-2010, 04:32 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by irpsit - 10-09-2010, 05:52 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Aaron - 09-25-2010, 11:00 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-25-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by thefool - 09-26-2010, 12:25 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-26-2010, 05:26 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-26-2010, 11:12 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Peregrinus - 09-27-2010, 12:43 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-27-2010, 02:33 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Etude in B Minor - 09-27-2010, 07:26 PM
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    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-28-2010, 02:36 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-28-2010, 10:45 AM
    Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by carrie - 09-28-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by peelstreetguy - 09-28-2010, 12:30 PM
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    RE: Revised question: Your country in 3D no longer exists when Earth goes 4D ? - by AnthroHeart - 09-29-2010, 09:22 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Ali Quadir - 09-28-2010, 11:52 AM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Etude in B Minor - 09-28-2010, 06:55 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by unity100 - 09-29-2010, 06:21 PM
    RE: unusual question: The country you live in no longer exists in 4D ? - by Questioner - 09-29-2010, 08:51 PM
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