edit: i have since apologized for this message over private message to earth spirit as upon second viewing i found that i failed to meet my own standards in terms of non-judgment. my original post is left unchanged below.
Hello earth_spirit,
concerning this topic there are a few things that I would like to make mention of and a few questions I would like to ask.
You say what is "worth mentioning is the echo-chamber of some trans communities, specifically how they refuse to believe that gender dysphoria can be alleviated by psychological treatment and recommend that all such individuals should transition (get mutilated) for their own good, even for cases where conventional treatment is effective."
I am not familiar with what information you have used to come to this conclusion. Could you please tell me? I am not familiar with any editorials, personal accounts, etc. that make this claim.
"One thing I don't appreciate about "trans-woman" is when they transform themselves into a complete caricature of "femininity"; grow long hair, wear lipstick, dresses, skirts, stockings, heels, whatnot. I'm not one to judge but nevertheless am inclined to see this as.. unhealthy to say the least. It is almost as if their understanding of being "female" is completely superficial and limited to whatever is culturally acceptable behavior for women. It's ironic when these allegedly non-conforming people end up reinforcing the petty gender norms of whatever oppressive culture they inhabit."
earth_spirit, I can see how you have come to such a conclusion, however I personally feel that what you are describing is not the case. I would begin by asking the question: do you believe that cisgender women, (women who are not transgender) make a caricature of femininity when they grow long hair, wear lipstick, dresses, skirts, stockings, heels, whatnot, etc.? If not, why? earth_spirit, perhaps it does not seem like it, but I can assure you that there are a great variety of transgender people. Some transgender men fit into the traditional descriptions of what is considered masculine, and some do not. So too: some transgender women fit into the traditional descriptions of what is considered feminine, and some do not. It seems that when you bring up your difficulties with transgender people, you speak of transgender women almost exclusively, such as in your example. It might be useful to consider whether you have a specific difficulty with accepting transgender women in particular, and if you feel that you do, ask yourself why that might be.
Hello earth_spirit,
concerning this topic there are a few things that I would like to make mention of and a few questions I would like to ask.
You say what is "worth mentioning is the echo-chamber of some trans communities, specifically how they refuse to believe that gender dysphoria can be alleviated by psychological treatment and recommend that all such individuals should transition (get mutilated) for their own good, even for cases where conventional treatment is effective."
I am not familiar with what information you have used to come to this conclusion. Could you please tell me? I am not familiar with any editorials, personal accounts, etc. that make this claim.
"One thing I don't appreciate about "trans-woman" is when they transform themselves into a complete caricature of "femininity"; grow long hair, wear lipstick, dresses, skirts, stockings, heels, whatnot. I'm not one to judge but nevertheless am inclined to see this as.. unhealthy to say the least. It is almost as if their understanding of being "female" is completely superficial and limited to whatever is culturally acceptable behavior for women. It's ironic when these allegedly non-conforming people end up reinforcing the petty gender norms of whatever oppressive culture they inhabit."
earth_spirit, I can see how you have come to such a conclusion, however I personally feel that what you are describing is not the case. I would begin by asking the question: do you believe that cisgender women, (women who are not transgender) make a caricature of femininity when they grow long hair, wear lipstick, dresses, skirts, stockings, heels, whatnot, etc.? If not, why? earth_spirit, perhaps it does not seem like it, but I can assure you that there are a great variety of transgender people. Some transgender men fit into the traditional descriptions of what is considered masculine, and some do not. So too: some transgender women fit into the traditional descriptions of what is considered feminine, and some do not. It seems that when you bring up your difficulties with transgender people, you speak of transgender women almost exclusively, such as in your example. It might be useful to consider whether you have a specific difficulty with accepting transgender women in particular, and if you feel that you do, ask yourself why that might be.