Bring4th Forums
  • Login Register
    Login
    Username:
    Password:
  • Archive Home
  • Members
  • Team
  • Help
  • More
    • About Us
    • Library
    • L/L Research Store
User Links
  • Login Register
    Login
    Username:
    Password:

    Menu Home Today At a Glance Members CSC & Team Help
    Also visit... About Us Library Blog L/L Research Store Adept Biorhythms

    As of Friday, August 5th, 2022, the Bring4th forums on this page have been converted to a permanent read-only archive. If you would like to continue your journey with Bring4th, the new forums are now at https://discourse.bring4th.org.

    You are invited to enjoy many years worth of forum messages brought forth by our community of seekers. The site search feature remains available to discover topics of interest. (July 22, 2022) x

    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material What is Ra's LOO?

    Thread: What is Ra's LOO?


    Steppingfeet (Offline)

    loves the law of one
    Posts: 1,598
    Threads: 106
    Joined: Dec 2008
    #35
    01-11-2016, 11:57 PM
    (01-11-2016, 02:12 PM)Ankh Wrote: I totally agree. Like it was for me when I just found Ra material. I was so tired of all the explanations and confused thoughts of others, that when I saw this philosophy I didn't want to read anything about what people thought about it, I just wanted to read the philosophy itself and decide for myself what I thought about it, and so I dived right into the sessions without reading anything about it. How was it for you, Gary?

    How was it for me? It was so good. It was the best I ever had. Smile

    I stumbled on Session 1 online. No introduction. No explanatory context. There was Ra talking in their Ra'ish way. And there were my tears. To this day I can recall that sensation of lightning running through me.

    However, my discovery of the material was not preceded by many years of intensive searching as was true in your case. My own awakening and transition had begun a couple years prior, and I had already plunged into a new world of thought, but I hadn't made so systematic and thorough an exploration in search of the truth as you had.

    Consequently I didn't have the same experience you describe above of wanting to get right to it.

    Surely, though, after having consumed the source's actual words a thousand times over, you have been aided by other's analysis of Ra?

    I think that, between the student who locks herself in a cave with the Law of One books and no other source material, and the student who synthesizes her Law of One study with other sources (including others' study of the material), one of the two will likely have a richer, more integrated and nuanced understanding.


    (01-11-2016, 02:12 PM)Ankh Wrote: Another question is - who exactly are we writing all these introductions and explanations for in that case? Aren't Ra's words alone enough and even more than enough?

    "Enough"? Who says that introductions, explanations, explorations, analyses, derivative works, etc., exist because of some deficiency in, or insufficiency with, the material?

    Perhaps associated work exists because the Creator never has "enough," and wants to continue playing, and creating new forms, and new experiences, and new dynamics.

    Ra's is the most sufficient, "complete," whole, beautiful, perfect, inspiring, transformational, powerful, profound system of thought of which I'm aware, but whether they are "enough" or not . . .

    I suppose that depends on who you're asking. To one who has penetrated the veil and more or less dissolved the illusion of separation, a flower is enough. A raindrop is enough. What more is needed to learn of infinity than infinity? What is there but self?

    Myself, I have definitely needed to augment my Law of One study with other sources. I understand Ra more deeply, and thusly myself more deeply, with every new insight gained, whatever its source; especially, though, those inspired arrangements that flow from mystical writers, however simple or sophisticated their words may be.


    (01-11-2016, 02:12 PM)Ankh Wrote: Another question is - who exactly are we writing all these introductions and explanations for in that case? Aren't Ra's words alone enough and even more than enough?

    4DSunrise has his own project, but earlier in this thread an Intro was mentioned for the new Ra Contact book. I'm not sure if it is that to which you refer in your question.

    Presently, the rough rough rough draft of the new intro includes this bit:

    The introduction is designed simply as an introduction; an orientation for any reader who picks up the book and doesn't want immediately to jump into Session 1. It is a way to ease the reader into the sometimes technically challenging material, helping them to establish the framework for understanding what they are about to read. It is, you might say, a map before entering foreign—but for some of you, mysteriously familiar—territory.

    No one in our corner is saying that the seeker needs an intro, but for those who would be aided by one, why not be of service?

    Admittedly the best way I can learn about Sweden is through immersion in its culture and geography - living in its cities, visiting its countryside, learning its customs, seeing its commerce, enjoying its arts, hearing and practicing its language, enjoying its universal healthcare and edenic conditions, eating its terrible-tasting fish products, etc.

    But before I hop on the next plane and arrive in Stockholm, I think I would be helped by reading an, "Introduction to Sweden (for dumb Americans)." There are a ton of subjects for which I'd appreciate an Intro, actually. And as Ra's message was not arranged tutorially, or in any great sequence save for the evolution of Don's questioning; and as their message is replete with unfamiliar terminology and concepts, strange on both the tongue and the mind, why not offer the service of an intro?

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    (01-11-2016, 06:00 PM)4Dsunrise Wrote: As I've said, the Ra group are like a very good college professor, but in Ra's Fundamental Postulates I've pointed out that they are not flawless and the channel transmission is not flawless.

    Ra's Fundamental Postulates
    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10871

    I don't see what is so hard to understand there and why LOO veterans can't respond. It's pretty cut and dry. Maybe there is some emotional block to not being able to critique a revered college professor's works.

    With all due respect to the sincerity and goodness of your intentions, I could be mistaken but I think the absence of reply in that thread is less about Ra and more about the OP.

    People who resonate with this work tend, on balance, to be independent-minded, non-conformist people who are happy to offer critique and disagreement, both of which have been brought to the Law of One material by the reverent and the unconvinced.

    You seem however to enjoy a certain approach to this material, a certain type of play. One that has, as you indicate, an academic flavor, but which involves, I would add, what looks to my limited viewpoint like a lot of word play. I can speak only for myself in saying that it doesn't add clarity to my study of the Law of One, or deepen my understanding. But then again, I'm not an academic.

    There are a multitude of educated, intelligent people on this board, but for someone who studies this material with a strong academic bent, and who is also incidentally currently working on his philosophy PhD, check out JustLikeYou, otherwise known as Sephira Vox.

    I'm sorry that you can't find others on the forum to share in that manner of play. You seem to have an abiding love of Ra's philosophy as well.

    Good luck in the quest to refine and improve upon the 2,600+ Q&As of the Ra Contact. You have set an ambitious goal for yourself. Smile

    PS: Also keep in mind that even the best of us get crickets in reply sometimes.

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
    [+] The following 2 members thanked thanked Steppingfeet for this post:2 members thanked Steppingfeet for this post
      • Nicholas, Ankh
    « Next Oldest | Next Newest »

    Users browsing this thread:



    Messages In This Thread
    What is Ra's LOO? - by 4Dsunrise - 12-08-2015, 03:23 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Adonai One - 12-08-2015, 04:46 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Nicholas - 12-08-2015, 06:29 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by AnthroHeart - 12-08-2015, 07:07 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Cyclops - 12-08-2015, 11:40 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Aion - 12-09-2015, 01:16 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Steppingfeet - 12-09-2015, 11:47 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Sacred Fool - 12-10-2015, 12:26 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by APeacefulWarrior - 12-10-2015, 01:20 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Steppingfeet - 12-11-2015, 01:14 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Sacred Fool - 12-11-2015, 02:23 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Steppingfeet - 12-11-2015, 11:45 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Diana - 12-11-2015, 02:27 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by APeacefulWarrior - 12-12-2015, 02:05 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Diana - 12-12-2015, 05:05 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by native - 12-11-2015, 04:08 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by 4Dsunrise - 12-13-2015, 09:41 AM
    RE: What is |OO? - by godwide_void - 12-14-2015, 01:51 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Sacred Fool - 12-14-2015, 05:19 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by godwide_void - 12-14-2015, 07:29 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Aaron - 12-14-2015, 11:38 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by godwide_void - 12-16-2015, 07:44 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Aion - 12-16-2015, 09:52 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by AnthroHeart - 12-17-2015, 04:10 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Aion - 12-19-2015, 04:17 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Night Owl - 12-17-2015, 07:15 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by 4Dsunrise - 12-27-2015, 05:24 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Nicholas - 01-07-2016, 06:03 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Ankh - 01-10-2016, 06:16 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Steppingfeet - 01-10-2016, 11:54 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Ankh - 01-11-2016, 02:12 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by 4Dsunrise - 01-10-2016, 04:23 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by 4Dsunrise - 01-11-2016, 06:00 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by AnthroHeart - 01-11-2016, 07:17 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Steppingfeet - 01-11-2016, 11:57 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Ankh - 01-12-2016, 03:37 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by Adonai One - 01-12-2016, 04:46 AM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by 4Dsunrise - 01-18-2016, 07:17 PM
    RE: What is Ra's LOO? - by 4Dsunrise - 01-31-2016, 09:40 AM

    • View a Printable Version
    • Subscribe to this thread

    © Template Design by D&D - Powered by MyBB

    Connect with L/L Research on Social Media

    Linear Mode
    Threaded Mode