01-03-2016, 01:50 PM
Thank you for your reply Bring4th_Plenum. I think I am pretty familiar with the LOO and concepts presented within it that are of the most interest and along my line of questions. The LOO focuses mostly on STO, and this forum is also geared towards STO, and I have to respect that. But my interests are strongly in STS for several years at least. I think I have a pretty good understanding of the chakras as that is one of the things I studied heavily before finding the HH material and then LOO. So I get that the heart and throat chakra are bypassed in STS, the first three rays go direct to 6th and 7th bypassing 4th and 5th, that is clear.
I did study Khengis Khan, Heinrich Himmler, and Rasputin (could not find much good info on Taras Bulba) to try to understand what they did and how they were negatively harvested. I also watched some movies about them with much fascination. I understand that war can be the perfect opportunity for one polarizing to STS. I hope this does not disturb anyone too much but I would have had a curiousity to meet someone like Hitler or Himmler if I were alive in that time, and such an opportunity was available, same thing for Rasputin or Khengin Khan. There is a fascination with such people I have, including the Illuminati, Hidden Hand, Lucifer (6thD SMC), and Zaxon. Even if I do not become like them, I would still like to meet with them, to see them. I hope someday I am able to do this somehow, even if not physically. I hope to see beings from the Orion Empire, to see negatively polarized 5th density beings. I guess I find STS beings much more interesting that STO beings. I'm not a bad person really, but I won't lie about where my interests are. I have never found a reason to take an interest in others. I have always been self-absorbed, perhaps Aspergers is slightly to blame for that.
What I am wondering is how one in solitude, with minimal interaction would pursue polarizing. In other words, if I were in a cave in the Himalayas and did not see another soul for years, could I be actively polarizing one way or the other, that is the question I am pondering. Because I do think it is possible but I am not completely sure how. I think people can often be the most potent calalysts but also not necesary to polarize either, but certainly easier. I guess this is just my personal opinion. You saying that one must demonstatre the bias in order to gain in polarity and I guess that makes sense. I also think there is much inner work that can be done on ourselves without out any others involvment.
Control could be expressed in a variety of ways certainly, but my personal preference is more subtle and less obvious, that of direct mental control, which is non-verbal. Sort of like hypnosis or some form of psychic control, or forced telepathy without the person knowing it, as if it was their own thoughts. It would not even require the person to know you were there. I am not one to talk to people much; I avoid that if possible. So I prefer dealing in thoughts alone. I don't have these abilities now, but I once did, to a degree.
As far as let us say causing harm to another, there are many things that prevent most people from considering this. For me, it is not coming from the heart, but from the mind, simply understanding consequences, consequences to me personally, so that is all that stops me from doing anything. The fear of getting caught, and spending time in prison, that is all the motivation I need not to harm others. Were there to be no worry of consequences, well then anything would be fair game potentially. Judge, jury, and executioner all in one. For some people the concept of karma might factor in. For many it might be the fear of going to hell or some other afterlife punishment. Love does not really factor into it for me. Just consequences rather avoided.
I do not know if I will ever be able to find it in myself to polarize for STO. It seems a lot of challenges [catalysts] have presented themselves in my life that make it only too east to see STS as the obviously more appropriate choice. However there is still a part of me that says yes I am meant to become very positive and polarize in STO eventually. I am torn between these two. I don't like being a lukewarm in the sinkhole of indifference. I am not sure yet what is my destiny. If this destiny is about a choice I would say I am well in the thick of that right now. All I know for now is I have an interest in STS and need more infomation to make a better decision on which way I will eventually go. STO does not seem to appealing. It seems vulnerable and weak. Since I am a selfish person, why should I have any interest in STO? Does that make any sense. It never has, not to me. So I am in agony being pulled between STO and STS all the time never sure which way I will go eventually. If I sound confused well I guess I am. I also have a lot of knowledge spiritually and some experience to back it up so I am no fool either. I am sure I am not the first person to have been in this dilema. But most people on this forum are probably committed to being in STO and are happy with that. I am not there yet, and not sure if I will ever be. The STS path is very attractive to me still. I do appreciate any thoughts anyone shares with this.
Jeffrey
(By the way I am sort of a newbie to forums and have not figured out the quoting thing yet)
I did study Khengis Khan, Heinrich Himmler, and Rasputin (could not find much good info on Taras Bulba) to try to understand what they did and how they were negatively harvested. I also watched some movies about them with much fascination. I understand that war can be the perfect opportunity for one polarizing to STS. I hope this does not disturb anyone too much but I would have had a curiousity to meet someone like Hitler or Himmler if I were alive in that time, and such an opportunity was available, same thing for Rasputin or Khengin Khan. There is a fascination with such people I have, including the Illuminati, Hidden Hand, Lucifer (6thD SMC), and Zaxon. Even if I do not become like them, I would still like to meet with them, to see them. I hope someday I am able to do this somehow, even if not physically. I hope to see beings from the Orion Empire, to see negatively polarized 5th density beings. I guess I find STS beings much more interesting that STO beings. I'm not a bad person really, but I won't lie about where my interests are. I have never found a reason to take an interest in others. I have always been self-absorbed, perhaps Aspergers is slightly to blame for that.
What I am wondering is how one in solitude, with minimal interaction would pursue polarizing. In other words, if I were in a cave in the Himalayas and did not see another soul for years, could I be actively polarizing one way or the other, that is the question I am pondering. Because I do think it is possible but I am not completely sure how. I think people can often be the most potent calalysts but also not necesary to polarize either, but certainly easier. I guess this is just my personal opinion. You saying that one must demonstatre the bias in order to gain in polarity and I guess that makes sense. I also think there is much inner work that can be done on ourselves without out any others involvment.
Control could be expressed in a variety of ways certainly, but my personal preference is more subtle and less obvious, that of direct mental control, which is non-verbal. Sort of like hypnosis or some form of psychic control, or forced telepathy without the person knowing it, as if it was their own thoughts. It would not even require the person to know you were there. I am not one to talk to people much; I avoid that if possible. So I prefer dealing in thoughts alone. I don't have these abilities now, but I once did, to a degree.
As far as let us say causing harm to another, there are many things that prevent most people from considering this. For me, it is not coming from the heart, but from the mind, simply understanding consequences, consequences to me personally, so that is all that stops me from doing anything. The fear of getting caught, and spending time in prison, that is all the motivation I need not to harm others. Were there to be no worry of consequences, well then anything would be fair game potentially. Judge, jury, and executioner all in one. For some people the concept of karma might factor in. For many it might be the fear of going to hell or some other afterlife punishment. Love does not really factor into it for me. Just consequences rather avoided.
I do not know if I will ever be able to find it in myself to polarize for STO. It seems a lot of challenges [catalysts] have presented themselves in my life that make it only too east to see STS as the obviously more appropriate choice. However there is still a part of me that says yes I am meant to become very positive and polarize in STO eventually. I am torn between these two. I don't like being a lukewarm in the sinkhole of indifference. I am not sure yet what is my destiny. If this destiny is about a choice I would say I am well in the thick of that right now. All I know for now is I have an interest in STS and need more infomation to make a better decision on which way I will eventually go. STO does not seem to appealing. It seems vulnerable and weak. Since I am a selfish person, why should I have any interest in STO? Does that make any sense. It never has, not to me. So I am in agony being pulled between STO and STS all the time never sure which way I will go eventually. If I sound confused well I guess I am. I also have a lot of knowledge spiritually and some experience to back it up so I am no fool either. I am sure I am not the first person to have been in this dilema. But most people on this forum are probably committed to being in STO and are happy with that. I am not there yet, and not sure if I will ever be. The STS path is very attractive to me still. I do appreciate any thoughts anyone shares with this.
Jeffrey
(By the way I am sort of a newbie to forums and have not figured out the quoting thing yet)
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