09-20-2010, 09:27 AM
(09-20-2010, 08:18 AM)unity100 Wrote: we broadly categorize many things in the group of 'religion', but, when we look them in detail, numerous ones from the eastern philosophies like buddhism, taoism and so on, are more philosophies than religions. ie, they are unlike others. they do not subject you to any organization, religious hierarchy in their core.This doesn't agree with reality at all. Buddhist religious structure is a highly organized hierarchy. There are absolute leaders. For example the Karmapa, and the Dalai Lama. All wonderful people, very wise and loving. But make no mistake they are very much in charge.
I love Buddhism. I think it's one of the best preserved systems of knowledge concerning the divine there is. Why do you think that is? Because there are no rules?
Quote:but if you look at the core of the philosophy, there is no ordering authority (god) and there is no appointed emissary (prophet).Not only are there gods and demons in Buddhism. There also exist various saints. And the prophets are essentially the holy men that still lead Buddhism today.
If we talk about authority, the Karmapa is the reincarnation of the buddha, and you're the reincarnation of John Smith from bloody Croydon... Does that feel like an equal power base?
Quote:entities are free to come and go as they please, think as they please, and develop their own understandings. almost nothing is mandated.The four noble truths and the eightfold paths are NOT optional. It's true that in the west no one will hold you to it, but make no mistake, the suffering caused in the west by overzealous Christians is comparable to the suffering Buddhist warriors have caused in the past..
Religion is a reality that encompasses billions of people and many centuries. It does not fit in broad sweeping statements. You're trying to define one part of human nature as part of one religion and another part of human nature as part of another religion..
This is obviously nonsensical, people are all the same. There will be loving Muslims and violent Buddhists. Even though ALL their religions teach peace. Buddhist monks are on average without a doubt the best fighters among all of the monks.. Ever wondered why that is? Ever wondered why there are committees against child sexual abuse in Buddhist monasteries?
We don't like to think of Buddhists this way. But the truth is they're as human as the rest of us. A friend of mine has identified a principle... "The scumbag factor is a constant"... Meaning that no matter what selection of people you take, after a while a certain constant percentage will become scumbags...
Remember the point I made earlier, that religion is always better on the other side of the earth? I think you demonstrated that Unity.