12-02-2015, 03:40 PM
(12-02-2015, 03:23 PM)earth_spirit Wrote: Far as I'm concerned, you did give a false understanding of STS.
I don't know why you said "love of falsity". STS simply necessitates love of self.
Anything that is not OIC is an illusion, distortion. STO entities love "falsity" as much as STS ones.
"80.8 Questioner: I am sorry for my lack of penetration of these mechanisms and I apologize for some rather stupid questions, but I think we have here a point that is somewhat central to what we are presently attempting to understand, so even though my next questions may be almost unacceptably stupid, I will attempt to try to understand what this power that our visitor seeks is and how he uses it. For it seems to me that this is central to the mind and the evolution of it in which we are involved.
As this entity that is our visitor increases his power through these works, what is the power that he increases? Can you describe it?
Ra: I am Ra. The power of which you speak is a spiritual power. The powers of the mind, as such, do not encompass such works as these. You may, with some fruitfulness, consider the possibilities of moonlight. You are aware that we have described the Matrix of the Spirit as a night. The moonlight, then, offers either a true picture seen in shadow or chimera and falsity. The power of falsity is deep as is the power to discern truth from shadow. The shadow of hidden things is an infinite depth in which is stored the power of the One Infinite Creator.
The adept, then, is working with the power of hidden things illuminated by that which can be false or true. To embrace falsity, to know it, to seek it, and to use it gives a power that is most great. This is the nature of the power of your visitor and may shed some light upon the power of one who seeks in order to serve others as well, for the missteps in the night are oh! so easy."
This is what I mean by STS loving falsity. They actively seek it, as Ra says right here.
(12-02-2015, 03:23 PM)earth_spirit Wrote: I just did not appreciate your extended hypothesis.
"For example, a higher polarized STS uses their polarity to potentiate control of the illusion to its highest degree, because they enjoy the illusion of manyness and separation."
Basically, you said X does Y because Z.
I responded with X likes to do Y. In my view, any further guesswork at causality is redundant.
I guess I'm not understanding your point then. From my perspective an STS uses the power of falsity to control others. Without illusion, falsity, untruth, the path of that which is not, they cannot enjoy their STS games, because in the absence of separation, there are no STS games to play.
However, in the absence of separation all is one, which is what the positive path is ultimately seeking. One path is a path of control of all, the other is the path of acceptance of all.
(12-02-2015, 03:23 PM)earth_spirit Wrote: I guess it goes without saying that this is only your unsubstantiated opinion. (can't believe I spelled that phrase correctly)
As is yours?
(12-02-2015, 03:23 PM)earth_spirit Wrote: In order for STO path to exist, there must be an illusion of manyness. To "escape" this illusion is to stop being an STO entity.
You are saying that like it is something to be avoided. A highly polarized STO being wants to return to the creator and end the illusion. The "STO path" is just a means to an end, just as the "STS path" is a means to a end. The paths have similarities but severely diverge towards the end.
(12-02-2015, 03:23 PM)earth_spirit Wrote: Anyway, no offense implied and I don't mean to contradict you. I just did not appreciate some of your views and choice of words. They did not resonate with me, so I decided to offer whatever understanding I've been able to develop on my own.
No offense to you either, even though I disagree with some of your concepts.