Questions regarding the LOO, STS and Religions

[Monica]

there are reasons why negative entities seed and twist messages, but still send messages to positive entities when they chance up with one. firstly they want to mix in negative with positive, so seeding and expanding on them can be possible later, second, they want to be able to keep the channel with the contacted group open, even if it is a positive one. if a channel is open, it is possible to seed it with more negative information in future.

the entire story of religions from caanan region is a good example. from the '10 commandments' which include positive things like you shouldnt steal and such, to whole negative array that can be found in resulting islam. all 2 religions borrowed from their predecessor.

the negatively oriented material coming through these channels/links have increased, ultimately culminating in the catholic church, islamic conquests and repressive rule.

'negativized' is a misplaced word. these religions were not negativized later. these religions were created negatively. what was given to moses was given by negative orion group, directly. immediately after jesus's death (and probably while he was alive) his apostles have already been building on judaic heritage coming from moses to concile the new religion with masses. mohammad directly created a religion, saying he was the emissary of god, and he was above all entities, and directly borrowed from judaism and christianity.

this is not 'negativization'. this is direct negative.

I can't argue with any of that. You're right.

Ali is also right.

...in that many people do manage to find the love, despite the negativity...many people have somehow managed to create great beauty from within such a negative structure.

From the STS perspective, it's negative. But they too serve the Creator. It's their job to provide catalyst. Ultimately, it's all catalyst. While many people have not utilized this particular catalyst and ended up negative or confused, stuck in 3D, others have utilized the catalyst and transcended the negativity.

So then, as you address in the next part of your post, the question becomes: Is this efficient? Which is what I think you're trying to address here. We don't need to debate whether some souls have managed to create beauty and even polarize STO while being immersed in traditional religions. Neither do we need to debate that those particular religions were seeded by STS, since Ra tells us that.

The question then becomes, how can we reconcile the situation?

are the power and influences of those better people and groups, coupled with the optimism and positive effort of people like you, enough to undo the negative influence ? if not so, 'yet', will it be ever enough to do that ?

Despite the fact that I agree with Ali that much good has manifested as a result of those 'better' people and groups, I have to agree that it hasn't been enough. When I was a child, I was taught to pray for world peace, for the hungry, for the poor, etc. I remember thinking back then, what is the point? It all seemed so overwhelming.

Nowadays, I meet Christians who talk of healing others because Jesus told them to do what he did, which was heal. Some of them have even told me that they realize, deep down, that Christianity as a whole has failed. Now, before anyone gets riled about this statement, please realize that this is what THEY said! These are their words, not mine! Several of my Christian friends, of differing denominations, have confided this to me.

They admitted that they felt a bit guilty for thinking such thoughts. They resolved to continue to have faith that God was in control, God had a reason to allow all the suffering on the planet, God had a reason to take their wife, God had a reason to let them get cancer, etc. etc. They were trying very hard to make sense of what was happening in their lives and on the planet, to try to fit it into the structure of what they were required to believe.

But deep down, they were confused, frightened, and grief-stricken. If a family member was in a car accident and survived, they'd rejoice that God spared the person...isn't God great? But if a family member died in the car accident, then it was "God's will" because "God needed an angel in heaven."

Such simplistic explanations...falling far short of any real sense of understanding.

I have sometimes suggested the concept of reincarnation to them, hoping that, if they could at least understand this simple concept, it would help ease their pain. But rarely is the person open to the idea. In most cases, they get terrified of even considering an "Eastern" philosophy. After all, they have been taught that reincarnation, along with psychic phenomena, even alternative healing, etc. are all "satanic."

This is the part in which I have to agree with you, unity100. These people are beautiful souls. I see such a purity of heart among them. It's lovely to behold. They genuinely do want to serve the Creator, and are doing so in the way they know how. We cannot judge these people. But I see them, time and time again, butting their heads against the wall, trying so hard to make sense of their lives, trying so hard to understand, within a system with unnecessary constraints.

Such a simple and useful tool like the freedom to believe in reincarnation is denied them. Using crystals to amplify intentions is denied them. Buddhist meditation techniques are denied them. Reading books that aren't expressly Christian...denied them. I cannot share the Law of One with them, because they will be terrified.

Why? Because they've taught that such things are satanic. Who or what is trying to control these people, and why?

There are books written about the "dangers of the New Age" etc. Websites with extensive commentary about how anything remotely esoteric, to be shunned and even fought, because it is a "false teaching from satan."

So while these people might be open to new ideas, they aren't allowed to pursue them, because their religious authorities tell them not to. This isn't a small pocket of Christians. This is very widespread. The modern born-again Christian network is huge and powerful. In my city, these types of churches far outnumber the conventional denominations like Catholic. Some of them are huge, with 30,000 members. A small city! Inside, they reek of extreme wealth. I noticed sculptures decorating their offices that must have cost many thousands of dollars. Not to mention the luxurious furnishings.

Some of the conventional denominations are just as fear-based. My Baptist friends have similar fears about anything remotely alternative or having an "Eastern" flavor. One woman even told me not to use herbs because that would make me a witch!!

When I visited a Mormon social event during election time, the speaker actually said that he assumed everyone in the audience was Republican. Then the same thing happened at a born-again church...The pastor gave a sermon about how evil the Muslims were. Around the same time, a Baptist co-worker actually told me that all the Muslims should be wiped out, since they were "all going to hell anyway." A pastor visited a local college with a few of his followers carrying signs that all gays are going to hell, except they didn't use the word gay; they used a much ruder term. Another time, when I was campaigning for Ron Paul (a Christian) and visited a church, they told me they could not support him because he wanted to end the war. I was like, huh??? Isn't that a good thing? to which they replied, "We can't vote for an anti-war candidate. God supports war." (Yeah, no kidding!!! And this is a direct quote!)

Are these people coming up with this stuff on their own? I don't think so. They're doing what they think is right, according to what they've been taught. It all centers around the belief that the book is the infallible 'word of God.'

The hierarchy, the structure, the institution...that is what is trying very hard to maintain control.

On the one hand, I see what Ali is seeing: the control is slipping. I see new movements in Christian churches spreading like wildfire...like my friend's Universalism movement, like numerous peace movements, alternative health movements, movements to seek understanding with other religions...these Christians, Muslims, etc. are seeking to expand their paradigm and doing a great job, a joy to behold!

At the same time, I see a clenching, a locking down, amongst the more fundamentalist groups. They even call the Charismatics, Catholics, and Universalists "not really Christian," "satanically misled" and destined for "hell"!

So clearly people are polarizing one way or the other, and being attracted to the religion that matches their choice.

But it's the ones still trapped in the middle I am concerned about, and, if I'm understanding you correctly (unity100), you are too. These lovely souls truly do want to polarize STO. They are doing the best they can. But they keep meeting a resistance, because of the "authority" who is telling them what to believe. They are being held back. I know some of these people would totally open up and just blossom, if not for these restraining authorities. It is on this point I agree with you. The institutions, being rooted in STS control, are making it unnecessarily difficult for these lights to shine brightly.

if, it will be enough to do that in future, is it wise to spare that energy and effort into trying to wrest a heavily muddied, negative philosophy/channel that a negative society complex stands behind and feeds ? what about already existing purer principles, concepts, groups, philosophies ?

I agree in theory. But how do we do that, without imposing on their free will? How do we get past the conditioning? And do we even have the right to help another-self get past the conditioning?

it isnt. had it been any useful, the world would be a MUCH better place by now, since billions have done the same sitting and laboring and meditating in religious houses and temples and whatnot for eons.

It could be argued, conversely, that the world would be a much worse place were it not for those bight lights in monasteries doing their prayers and meditations.

At the same time, I do see your point. We know from Ra/Q'uo that this planet is very behind, compared to others. It's reasonable to conclude that the Orion influence had something to do with that, but let's not forget that this planet was basically an experiment to begin with, so there are other factors at work here too.

I have a business associate who is a Christian pastor. He confided in me that he is very frustrated with the people in his congregation. He is of course totally Bible-oriented, but he does try to get them to wake up to what he believes is their "power bestowed by Jesus" to go out and heal the sick and feed the hungry. He said these people ask for prayers for their cancer, their financial difficulties, etc., get results temporarily, and then a few weeks later are back with the same problems. He expressed frustration. He said, "Why aren't they being healed permanently? And why aren't they going out and healing others as Jesus said to do?"

This is an example of unrest within the religion. Perhaps people in those religions are beginning to wake up. In his case, he has never questioned the religion itself, but at least he is questioning the end results that are manifesting, and choosing to focus on the positive aspects (the teachings of Jesus, although very little survived in the book) rather than the negative. It's a start. But in response to your point, why aren't the followers of these religions moving mountains, healing the sick, ending wars, etc.?

spiritual journey is not a journey of lottery. the entity is responsible with acting in conjunction with its own desire, and manifesting principles that it learned in its life. sticking to an impure channel, for whatever reason, despite purer information and channels and methods and means being given, and then expecting anything to happen, is just irresponsible.

this is a journey of sacrifices for betterment. if an entity cannot let go of impure channels and thoughts, it means it is not ready for advancing to next step, regardless of the reasons it shows to itself or its spiritual circle.

What do you suggest? How do we encourage purer information, without imposing on the free will of others?