09-18-2010, 11:14 AM
ali's post is more wishful thinking, beautification than actual reality. equating christ consciousness, 4d love with christianity doesnt make christianity that thing. christianity as of thousands of years is a control mechanism complete with punishments, forbiddings, exploitation, suppression, repression, politics, hierarchies and more. from limited and acceptable amounts, to maximum and unbearable levels. only with the modern age and demise of religions have softened the situation, yet still it has a serious impact in approx 1 billion people's lives, affecting even the ones that have nothing to do with it through politics.
in numerous places in Ra text, it is noted that repetition of various predetermined actions do not bring enlightenment or benefit. 'i drink christ's blood' or similar such predetermined traditional moves will not help any entity go forth in their path.
even if one takes it as something that would maybe make them think, make them wonder or take as an example, it is again pointless, because life itself, each and everyone's own life has a lot of various examples as such, in their relatives, or in the people they encounter, events they live. it is naive to expect that they could just break free by a monotonous, repetitive ritual in a religious hiearchy, if they have not broken through via the examples in their own lives, tailored, planned specifically for them. and not surprisingly, it just doesnt happen.
even if one pushes the boundary, and attempts to say that 'but all those rituals are charged with power because billions have been doing it for thousands of years', and assigns them an occult meaning, it is still naive and dangerous -> those rituals also carry all the heritage and spiritual inheritance of what christianity is, along with all its repression, control, all the negative karma that is generated by its participants and the philosophy as a whole, and all the consequences that follow. every iteration of those rituals will be a link not only to whatever 'christ consciousness' that is left meagerly in the time/space counterpart existence of christianity, but also all its heritage, including the negative ones.
'oh but i just want christ consciousness' -> it doesnt happen. you either take whatever you are calling in entirety, and all the influences that the method you are using has, or, you resist the unwanted parts (that is if you can identify them all), either through your own power and will, or, by being guarded by aides or higher self etc. in either case, because of using an impure method or adhering to an impure belief, energy, will is wasted to guard against negative influences. of course, that is if the entity guards itself or guarded against negative influences. if the entity just lumps in the result of the ritual, connection, philosophy, it takes all of it in. actually, talking about negative influence even would be a bit optimistic, because negative influence is even itself a path for progression. more likely, the entity would also draw in all the repeating, entangling, hampering thought patterns and karma that the philosophy has, the very thing which has been hampering the entities up till this point, just as Ra says how the entities were accepting and acknowledging the spiritual principles they are being given, but not manifesting them in their own lives.
actually, that is as such with all such kinds of rituals, and occult. you have to deal with whatever you call in. that becomes even graver when it is remembered that starting with moses, negative influence has been creating religions, and all the following religions derived heavily from them, also carrying the same taint, and even getting invested probably even more, by the orion group that has been working in the area.
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teaching stuff to other entities is not a religion. neither duplicating and disseminating the material that has been written.
Quote:Everyone used to use this technique, all religions have this sense of spiritual heritage. Keeping the flame alive and passing her down through history. People these days accept it with ease from pagan religions, from buddhism, hinduism, practically all occult traditions. But christianity for unclear reasons is different, it is just an empty shell of rules and has nothing to do with these teachings... This is true even to many followers. We cannot imagine our parents and grandparents and uncle bob to be members of an initiatory tradition. But they are if we look at the evidence.
Not only does the church use the exact same form of rituals in their own initiations. They follow the exact same structure as any other tradition. I could walk you through the cathedrals here in europe and point out the occult meanings. If you are like most you don't see it until it's explained that's why it's called occultism.
in numerous places in Ra text, it is noted that repetition of various predetermined actions do not bring enlightenment or benefit. 'i drink christ's blood' or similar such predetermined traditional moves will not help any entity go forth in their path.
even if one takes it as something that would maybe make them think, make them wonder or take as an example, it is again pointless, because life itself, each and everyone's own life has a lot of various examples as such, in their relatives, or in the people they encounter, events they live. it is naive to expect that they could just break free by a monotonous, repetitive ritual in a religious hiearchy, if they have not broken through via the examples in their own lives, tailored, planned specifically for them. and not surprisingly, it just doesnt happen.
even if one pushes the boundary, and attempts to say that 'but all those rituals are charged with power because billions have been doing it for thousands of years', and assigns them an occult meaning, it is still naive and dangerous -> those rituals also carry all the heritage and spiritual inheritance of what christianity is, along with all its repression, control, all the negative karma that is generated by its participants and the philosophy as a whole, and all the consequences that follow. every iteration of those rituals will be a link not only to whatever 'christ consciousness' that is left meagerly in the time/space counterpart existence of christianity, but also all its heritage, including the negative ones.
'oh but i just want christ consciousness' -> it doesnt happen. you either take whatever you are calling in entirety, and all the influences that the method you are using has, or, you resist the unwanted parts (that is if you can identify them all), either through your own power and will, or, by being guarded by aides or higher self etc. in either case, because of using an impure method or adhering to an impure belief, energy, will is wasted to guard against negative influences. of course, that is if the entity guards itself or guarded against negative influences. if the entity just lumps in the result of the ritual, connection, philosophy, it takes all of it in. actually, talking about negative influence even would be a bit optimistic, because negative influence is even itself a path for progression. more likely, the entity would also draw in all the repeating, entangling, hampering thought patterns and karma that the philosophy has, the very thing which has been hampering the entities up till this point, just as Ra says how the entities were accepting and acknowledging the spiritual principles they are being given, but not manifesting them in their own lives.
actually, that is as such with all such kinds of rituals, and occult. you have to deal with whatever you call in. that becomes even graver when it is remembered that starting with moses, negative influence has been creating religions, and all the following religions derived heavily from them, also carrying the same taint, and even getting invested probably even more, by the orion group that has been working in the area.
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teaching stuff to other entities is not a religion. neither duplicating and disseminating the material that has been written.