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    Thread: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic


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    11-20-2015, 07:06 PM (This post was last modified: 11-22-2015, 06:46 AM by 4Dsunrise. Edit Reason: change reflective to reflection )
    Continuing with some more illuminating aspects.

    Based on the Ra group quote:

    Quote:The Creator does not strictly or purely create as much as It experiences Itself.

    By way of the Reflection Principle, the Experiencer/Creator gets reflected within Itself as 
    co-experiencers/creators. See post #11 of What is Ra's Monism.

    Let's apply the quote and the Reflection Principle in the following cases.

    Quote:Our sun Sol does not strictly or purely create as much as it experiences.

    So Sol, as a mythos/topos/logos complex, is a co-creator, co-experiencer and co-explorer. We can also add co-seeker as synonymous to co-explorer.

    Quote:Juliet does not strictly or purely create as much as she experiences.

    So Juliet, as a mind/body/spirit complex, is a co-creator, co-experiencer, co-explorer and co-seeker.

    Quote:My horse Chelsea does not strictly or purely create as much as she experiences.

    So Chelsea, as an emerging 3D mind/body/spirit complex, is a co-creator, co-experiencer, co-explorer and co-seeker.
     
    So, by way of precedence of experience over creation, we are both co-experiencers and co-creators in which we should emphasize the experiencing of our essence via mindfulness and meditation, and de-emphasize the creating of our existence via simplifying our lifestyle. (with an obvious need for various mythos/topos/logos elements to use for experience)

    Why should I accept the notion of the precedence of experience over creation and a One Infinite Experiencer/Creator and why does "creating" need "experiencing" to evolve?

    Creating, such as creating random chaos, does not imply the evolution of that random chaos. But experiencing or exploring random chaos induces the re-creating and modifying of this random chaos and implies its evolution. 

    It's basically a panpsychic/pan-experiential and morphogenesis theory or the generating of new forms from experiencing, exploring and learning.

    In academic philosophy:
    Creation is a necessary but not a sufficient condition to induce evolution.
    Experience is both a necessary and a sufficient condition to induce evolution.

    An example of necessary and sufficient is the following.
    Having oxygen in the air and dry wood sticks are necessary but not sufficient conditions to start a fire. But having enough heat by which the dry wood sticks reach their kindling temperature is both a necessary and sufficient condition to start a fire.

    So all three conditions are necessary but the heat is both necessary and sufficient and is therefore the key agent or catalyst to start the fire. So it goes with experience being the key agent or catalyst to induce evolution.

    What about the desire/will dynamic? How are they related?

    They have co-essence and co-existence and seem to be mutually proportional in that a weak desire produces a weak will, and a weak will produces a weak desire. The stronger the desire the stronger the will, and the stronger the will the stronger the desire. They both originate from a faculty or an impulse to have being -- the nonbeing/being dynamic which will be discussed in the next post on panentheism vs pantheism.

    The desire/will dynamic can be applied to seeking to get another potential illuminating aspect.

    I greet you in the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator. 
    I greet you with the wonder and curiosity of the One Infinite Explorer.
    I greet you with the desire and will of the One Infinite Seeker.

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    The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 11-17-2015, 01:59 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 11-20-2015, 07:06 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by Minyatur - 11-20-2015, 07:19 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by Nicholas - 11-20-2015, 07:28 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 11-22-2015, 02:47 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 11-29-2015, 06:11 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by Plenum - 12-05-2015, 11:06 AM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 12-05-2015, 06:35 AM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 12-06-2015, 10:12 AM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by Plenum - 12-06-2015, 10:49 AM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by AnthroHeart - 12-06-2015, 05:48 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by anagogy - 12-06-2015, 08:25 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 12-13-2015, 08:23 AM

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