11-10-2015, 02:12 PM
(11-10-2015, 01:33 PM)anagogy Wrote:(11-10-2015, 01:14 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Of course, I'm not arguing this point. I was arguing the point that it's erroneous and nigh impossible to individuate factory farm animals. But, this new point emerging that, not all beings in factory farms are "merely" 2D awareness - it IS possible that some have 3D awareness. I don't think that's as big of a change of awareness as you are arguing, however, so I don't feel "more bad" for the 3D beings in factory farms than the 2D beings - but I feel just as "bad" about what's happening to the animals as I do to anything that is happening to humans. I don't believe it's "more okay" because they are "merely" 2D awareness, which seems to be a lot of the argument for participating in the factory farm paradigm.
You used "merely" in quotations like you are implying that I think that 2nd density beings are lower than humans. I don't think that for the record. They are just different. Different priorities. Different sense of reality. Different pattern of consciousness. I also don't think it is possible for an animal to have full 3D consciousness. A 3rd density body is required for that. It just becomes "3rd density harvestable".
I disagree for a myriad of reasons. One being Maldek choosing imprisonment in 2D bodies with their post 3D harvestable consciousness. Do you think it's a chakra thing - like animals don't have the higher chakras in potentiation? How come when Ra says that when one activates each new level of awareness, it is a "springboard" to the next? Do you think animals just "stall out" at the threshhold between 2D and 3D until they incarnate in human form? Why would entities like Gandalf choose to come back into bodies where they can effectively learn no lessons? Is that really possible?
What makes a dolphin animal body so much closer to a human's but different than a fish? What makes a elephant so much different than a rat? These are arguably "advanced consciousness" species that coexist on our earth with us... evolving in consciousness and awareness even in animal form.
Ra says that some physical 1D earth structures (implying mountains) can reach 3d awareness and radiate love, how is that possible?
Quote:Quote:If this were happening to humans, no one would argue so staunchly that it's for the "greater good"
The problem with your analogy is you can't compare the two. Like I keep saying, they are different. The difference between 2nd density and 3rd density is the same factor of difference as between 2nd density and 1st density. That's what nobody seems to get or understand, and why so many things in the animal kingdom seem cruel to people. It's human nature to anthropomorphize. But it's sort of like trying to get a snake to take care of its young, because you ignorantly thought they were like human babies. It would make no sense, and is short sighted, and fails to see things as they are.
I'm not sure the snake analogy is the best. Firstly, there are plenty of humans who have zero interest in rearing their offspring. Secondly, factory farms are producing cows, pigs, and chickens, all which are attached to and rear their young. Have you ever seen an animal mourn losing its young? It's visceral, and it happens even in the wild. Some mothers will stress themselves and starve themselves to death after losing a child. Maternal instincts are hardly a trait that only humans experience.
You again imply the folly of anthropomorphization but that is distinctly how we serve our 2D bretheren. Why can't we compare the two?
Quote:b) We didn't come to fix a broken world.
I agree and disagree. There is the famous Q'uo quote that says "You didn't come here to fix it, you came here to love it" - but that's precisely because you -can't- fix it if you -don't- love it. So first, you must love it, and then your acceptance and love will allow more acceptance and love to replace the old energies. And no, I am not resonating with misery, I am recognizing its existence and resonating with a different reality, so I am doing my best to assist in the transition.