Why I am not a vegan

[Diana]

The elephant in the room is that many people apparently just don't care if they inflict suffering on others.

I thought the big elephant in the room is that many people apparently don't think suffering can be a valuable experience to the Creator and deny it's place in the learning process of this Octave as the Creator of Himself.

No one here has said that there is no value in suffering.

But the issue is not whether there is value in suffering and I think we would all agree that there is, rather, it is whether or not we want to be the cause of others suffering. This is the central issue.