10-28-2015, 05:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-28-2015, 06:00 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
(10-05-2015, 07:53 PM)anagogy Wrote:(10-05-2015, 07:16 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Does anyone know of any non-dual school of thought which expounds upon the idea that duality and non-duality imply a type of duality through polarity?My understanding is that duality does not even exist, except in illusory perception. That is why duality is the path of That Which is Not (STS). It is a pathway of potentiating illusion to its highest degree, because falsity, and the potentials it produces or allows for, is loved above all else. And the STA (service to all) path is the path of That Which Is, because it is transcending the illusion, because truth is loved above all else.
I do like the connection between illusion and duality, and definitely agree that duality itself is the illusion in which we have veiled ourselves. What you say here, in connection to my OP, seems to be very congruent with Ra's words here:
100.9"The polarities are both dependent upon a limited viewpoint. However, the negative polarity depends more heavily upon the illusory separation betwixt the self and all other mind/body/spirit complexes. The positive polarity attempts to see through the illusion to the Creator in each mind/body/spirit complex, but for the greater part is concerned with behaviors and thoughts directed towards other-selves in order to be of service. This attitude in itself is full of the stuff of your third-density illusion."
(10-05-2015, 11:49 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I think the act of self control and self manipulation are very well known tools of a STO path that are just not offered in the light of better judgment as is desired. When you say no to yourself or another, or ask another for help in a way that helps mostly just you.
I'm not really sure I'm following you, but if I am understanding you correctly, I don't really agree. Self-control is explicitly, according to Ra, not congruent with service-to-other polarization. That's not to say that STO polarizing entities don't utilize self-control and self-manipulation. We all probably do. But they're not behaviors that contribute to positive polarization.
(10-05-2015, 11:49 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I think Polarity is a nice ruse of catalyst to work through mentally to get to a unified perspective of each polarity as being literally besides energetic mechanics, the same thing. Desires being fulfilled. Identity identifying intelligently parts of itself.
I just don't see this line others do anymore. STS does as they do no different from STO. So one kills and the other sacrifices self. What's the difference? All is one, whether parts of the all are killed by STS actions, or by STO actions, same end result.
Free will being "paramount," the honoring of free will is the difference I see in these two examples you give. Though I will say that I don't see these examples as crystallized realization of either path.
(10-05-2015, 11:49 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Its another reason to love and accept STS concepts. Its the will of another. Why negate such by pitching it as different?
I don't think discerning a difference between the two is at all negating. Recognizing a difference in the two can actually help us love and accept the negative path, as we are more aware of what exactly it is we are loving. Contrast helps us to get a better picture. Without accentuating the contrast, how can we be aware of what it is we claim to (seek to) love?
(10-27-2015, 08:09 PM)ScottK Wrote: To me, the non-duality path would be good for those who wish to be monks or someone who has no real ambitions to help many others.
When one helps many others, they become a target for STS entities, and thus they need to consider duality to a far greater extent. Jesus, as an example, probably would have wished to be in a state of non-duality, but he helped too many people and therefore he had to become aware of duality.
Consider also how Carla, Jim and Don were attacked while they created the Ra Material. It was important for negative entities to try to stop them because of the significance of the material, and future distribution of that material. So, they had to be on guard - it's hard to be of service to many if a negative entity finds a way to prematurely end your life. If they just had a simple meditation group that didn't do anything of major significance to humanity, they would never have been attacked the way they were..
I don't think that non-dual realization necessarily results in a lack of desire to help others. Ra speaks of their own motivation in helping:
14.18 "The One Being of the creation is like unto a body, if you will accept this third-density analogy. Would we ignore a pain in the leg? A bruise upon the skin? A cut which is festering? No. There is no ignoring a call. We, the entities of sorrow, choose as our service the attempt to heal the sorrow which we are calling analogous to the pains of a physical body complex distortion."
I think that the desire to serve becomes more of a natural reaction the more the non-dual reality is recognized, similarly to how a body may heal a wound. We, being the body of the Creator, naturally seek to serve more and more as the we grow in our realization of our innate oneness with the rest of the universe (in other words, piercing the illusion of duality). Each entity is unique in its desire and ability to serve, so it will not always look the same. For some, like monks, perhaps their service is found in solitude. According to Ra, those in solitude can still serve through lightening of the planetary vibration. Many monks also serve through example, teaching, charity, and other types of service. For others, perhaps this service is manifested in helping to establish social structures which honor the oneness of all beings. For others, it may be channeling spiritual information.
Ra said it was the polarity of the working of the Ra contact that attracted the opposite polarity. I think the non-dual nature of Ra's information supports the idea that the positive path is of non-duality. Their continuous advice in helping to cope with the psychic greeting experienced by the group was a consistent request of the group to see the other polarity as of the same Creator. This did not mean that their actions to protect against the negative other-self implied duality, but rather that the effectiveness of the act of protection was imbued and empowered by realization of oneness and love. To be of service, protection was necessary, and so that protection was simply another aspect of the service.
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