Questions regarding the LOO, STS and Religions

[Monica]

Not necessarily. Although many who followed a religion have undoubtedly been harvested, it is debatable as to whether it was because of their religious choice or despite it.

But I think you see the larger point that it was their spiritual doctrine (a better choice of words as you state below than the word religious doctrine) which nonetheless heavily facilitated their choice.

My point is that, I don't think the religious doctrine could necessarily be said to influence their polarity one way or the other, or at least not in a direction that is easily ascertained. Both STS and STO are to be found in these religions. I've witnessed people of the same religion, reading the same words, perceiving those words in opposite ways. It could just as easily be argued that the religious dogma interfered with their polarizing as it did facilitated it.

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Far too broad of a statement as relates to its original intent: This is true only for the those weaker polarized STO who do not discern, or for their counterpart weaker STS who have yet learned to focus their divisiveness. It is not at all true for the stronger STO that do discern, this in spite of said corruption given, in that far than enough light remains regardless.

I'm not sure I understand your point here. Are you saying that only the 'weaker' followers would have distorted the avatars' teachings? Are you saying that you think the religions are generally accurate reflections of what the avatars intended? Or am I misunderstanding you here?

STS does not extinguish the light in said doctrines, even though they are successful in corrupting it. It may be very fairly stated that there are as many STO preserving the light of the message as there are STS distorting/corrupting it.

We have no way to know that but can only speculate, based on (subjective) observations of the fruits of said religions. Gazing upon the works of Mother Theresa will yield different conclusions than gazing upon a 'witch' burning at the stake. I don't think it's possible to do the math.

We may concentrate on the dark, or we may concentrate on the light, even in this very conversation, as much as the subject matter of spiritual doctrines, which surely contain equal parts of light and dark....as we must agree....

I would agree that they contain both. Whether in equal proportions, who can say?

Spiritual doctrine therefore, as much as religion, facilitate their choice nevertheless which was the reason for the Avatars incarnation.

Can you please clarify? What was the reason for the Avatars' incarnations? Are you saying that they intended to produce doctrine which would facilitate choice, or are you saying they just intended to facilitate choice, and the doctrine was a by-product?

STO has as a result the ability to utilize these doctrines and/or religions, as if though a mechanisms for harvestability, which no doubt are their intent by the Avatars to begin with. Wouldn't you agree?

I agree that their intent was to facilitate choice. But I would disagree that their intent was to create doctrine, regardless of whether that doctrine facilitated choice or not.

Agreed. But their difficulty or ease is not what is in question. The mechanism by which they merge is.

The reference to their difficulty was in response to the question as to whether they must somehow do 'penance.' I don't subscribe to the concept of penance, so I was suggesting that their path no more requires 'penance' than ours. Each is a valid path with its own hardships. What's different is what is perceived as hardship.