(09-14-2010, 02:36 AM)Lavazza Wrote: Hey Quantum,Hello Lavazza. Thanks for joining in. I'll agree wholeheartedly with Don, yourself, and of course the star of our show, Ra, that its distortion all the way down. However, having stated that, its the reason we've cast ourselves into the play we've come here to be in to begin with as actors in our own drama. As I understand it, we purposefully have elected to walk in the shadows, as Ra stated, as pilgrims on our own dusty paths. To that end, and to those of us so inclined, it is our intent to tackle these question as one of the primary reasons towards the goal of polarizing, given we can not undo the distortions as such in spite of said tackles, even if the bulbs on our porch are hopefully/presumably burning only slightly brighter, even if only fractions within fraction therein, than is our neighbors porch light. To that end, the water's fine, as much as it is distorted, as much as it is wet, with the additional understanding of contracts entered into that its difficult to see underwater, much less breath in it.
Great thread topic.
....In a lecture given by Don during the Ra contact years, he makes a strong point about the reason why his extraterrestial contact constantly uses the word "distortion":
http://www.llresearch.org/speeches/speec..._0421.aspx Wrote:All information that has ever been communicated by language on this planet is distorted. All religious information is distorted. The only way you’re ever going to get pure information is by making it back around the whole cycle, reuniting with the creative Consciousness, and then you’ll be undistorted. So this is why the word, distortion, is very important. Our contact continually uses the word distortion. All the information you have been given is distorted to some extent or another. Most of it is pretty much distorted......What I am saying, is that the so-called free pass (I now use this term independently of your context, 3D) is actually an example of distorted thinking. ...It's interesting to speculate of course- but take care not to cast judgment. Doing so is indeed a real stumbler.
What I'm driving at is that distortion is the Matrix (think the movie vs the archetypes), created as such. If we take care to distinguish our efforts of discernment from that of judgment, wherein discernment is an integral component towards the efforts of said tackling for one of the primary purposes of polarizing, all is well. If we exercise judgment on the other hand, and heavy handed copious amounts of it, it may be argued as well that all is as well...if one is STS.
It may be reasonable to conclude therefor that judgment is a very bad thing for STO whereas discernment is a very good thing. Conversely, judgment would seem to be a very very good thing as a direct result of it beings so bad, this for STS, and that if peppered very very strongly with egregious amounts of condemnation as its action thereafter an even better thing.
Knowing the difference between the two is where wisdom and love comes in (download at bottom of this text for discernment/download below that for wisdom - a-h-h-h...were it that easy....

The "free pass" question if utilized as a discernment exercise would then be an attempt towards understanding these rascals (STS) and ultimately learning to love them in the end, as we will and must anyway.
(09-14-2010, 09:41 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: I remember Ra saying that the book had a lot of faulty information on purpose.
Don't remember where I saw it though.
Using discernment helped me read through a lot of it. Picking out the pieces.
(09-15-2010, 09:57 AM)lightning Wrote: According to my understanding, that is right.Do you and LSD mean to state that STO purposefully placed misinformation into the Bible, or that STS purposefully placed in misinformation? If the comment is directed towards the former, then it is contradictory to STO actions and behaviors. If it is directed towards the latter then it is self-evident in that this is one of the whole precepts of STS, i.e. to corrupt STO information, influence confusion, etc? If it is directed at STO I would be extremely curious if you can find this quote or any such general information towards it.
Hello Lightening. Allow me to state fist that your previous assessment of "eternal damnation" to mean one rather of "timelessness" versus "forever" as a most interesting manner of turning upside down the conventional Christian perspective, as in a damning judgment of eternity, and one more towards an STO perspective of love and understanding which then accommodates the question of STS's merger into mid 6th more gently and one with a great deal more understanding, not to mention fitting a congruency between the two sources on this point between the Bible and the LOO.
(01-26-1974, 02:11 PM)lightning Wrote: ... I believe that the only books of the Old Testament not heavily influenced to the point of negativity are Genesis, Psalms, and Proverbs.Interesting. I think I might agree to your larger point, with of course some STO in those (STS books), as much as some STS in these (STO books). They get equal time according to the Laws of the COBC (Confederation/Orion Broadcast Commission). *See said rulings in COBC manual with understanding and disclaimer that said rules must be downloaded through potentially questionable if not corrupt sources such as STS.
...With the New Testament, it is very positive with the exception of the book of Revelation.
(01-26-1974, 02:11 PM)lightning Wrote: ..However, the main message that is so important that comes from Jesus is one of personal transformation that offers a means of abdication of the "self" to the Higher Self (Holy Spirit) and in doing so to reach a higher level of spirituality. In other words, to move toward harvest.Well spoken. I think this is almost undeniable, and arguably so as supported by Ra through their message that the Jesus entity mission was indeed a successful one.
~ Q ~