09-15-2010, 11:50 AM
(09-09-2010, 06:03 PM)Quantum Wrote: Greetings Fellow Seekers. Having just exited the thread "There isn't that much freedom" regarding questions of Infinity and wherein questions with respect to the LOO cropped up, I wonder if I may pose one.
Raised in the Judeo-Islamic-Christian (hereinafter referred to as JIC) traditions that so many of us have been, and then having found the LOO, and having studied it so thoroughly, and then having struggled to have it fit seamlessly into the confines of the aforementioned JIC, wherein everything has been placed as nicely into its appropriate corners and tucked away as much as possible, do any of you who were raised in either of these traditions also at times stumble on at least one core philosophical principle, or more, of the LOO such that the corners of the LOO sometimes protrude slightly out here and there at times, or even come slightly loose at others, notwithstanding that some of the principles of the aforementioned books of JIC seemingly melt.
Specifically a case in point: STS vs STO - How do does one raised in said traditions of JIC reconcile that one may at mid 6th density merge into Heaven, so to speak, by in fact having traversed the paths of deprivation, depravity, degradation, and just a whole lot of general degeneration (lots of "D" words)...( basically Hell), and presumably in fact the deeper one descends into hell through these "D" actions the more then is one rewarded and the more expeditious his path to heaven is opened up to him?
*side note: please go with the JIC references of Hell, purgatory, sin, redemption, and Heaven in order to accommodate the humor if not the point.
Does it sometimes, even momentarily, stump you after you close your LOO books, study guides, sign off the forum, close down the Quo sessions, etc, and then turn on the news to see all manner of horrendous and dastardly deeds performed on the planet and its peoples at large, to know that these acts are part of the fast track to God as much are are Mother Teressa's?
I will be curious to see the responses to what otherwise seems to be an elementary question upon which the LOO rests upon...
...L/L...
~ Q ~
the answer is simple. you simply let go of all you have learned in those religions, their dogmas, suggestions and traditions.
it is no different than dying and being reborn, just like the concept that is the basis of initiation at the bottom chamber of the pyramid.
it would be rather naive to think that, despite the entity has to metaphorically die and be reborn, getting rid of as many societal mind-specific illusions and conditionings for progressing in his/her seeking, s/he wouldnt have to let go of all that s/he has learned or conditioned to in the past, regardless of the source.
one has to leave all the attachments and conditionings behind.