09-14-2010, 02:36 AM
Hey Quantum,
Great thread topic. Many of us have been raised in either the J, I, or C traditions. Myself the last of them, although it never really took a very strong hold on me as a youngster or young adult when I did follow it, and I certainly follow it no more. Nevertheless, some of the concepts taught therein seem to hold a sway, even if ever so subtly, later in life. Case in point- I still held on to residual fear of burning damnation after death even though I had intellectually given up Christianity years before. This being a long, long time before discovering my esoteric spiritual home, the LOO. (I was able to release these fears after meeting my wonderful wife, who showed me a better path with her upbringing in Unitarian/Unity/Univeralist churches. The LOO followed years later).
Anyways- the reason I bring up this example is because as you so aptly prefaced your question with a possible explanation, that being that having been raised in a JIC tradition yourself, you found trouble when attempting to reconcile ideas presented by Ra and ones you were presented with years earlier. Trying to do so is, in a word I think, folly.
In a lecture given by Don during the Ra contact years, he makes a strong point about the reason why his extraterrestial contact constantly uses the word "distortion":
Our JIC religions are indeed distorted. Verily so. They would have us believe in the sort of God who ensures a human version of justice is always and forever carried out upon those who do "wrong" and those who do "right". Thus we have the myth of Heaven, and the myth of Hell, to satisfy and justify the religious when "wrong" is carried out upon them. But, here I must turn to the NDE (Near Death Experience) literature if not the Ra material. After death, 90% of NDE'ers report that there is no final judgment as is spoken of in the Bible, Koran, et cetera. The judgment is always given from the self, to the self. I might suggest that Ra echos this sentiment, and I suspect basic and general philosophy of the bigger picture when describing the so called Negative entity in his acsention through the densities.
What I am saying, is that the so-called free pass (I now use this term independently of your context, 3D) is actually an example of distorted thinking. It's a product of our religious upbringing, and perhaps disadvantageous to hold on to. I see it as inconsequential to me personally how so and so handles his or her polarity a few billion years from now. It's interesting to speculate of course- but take care not to cast judgment. Doing so is indeed a real stumbler.
Judgment may itself be a good topic later. I've come to feel since reading the LOO that there really is no justice in the way your typical JIC priest would have it be, when you look at the real world, the real universe and metaverse. If justice does exist it is impartial or beyond our understanding. And thus seeming "unjust" situations of STS entities reaping havoc upon other portions of creation for billions or more of years and suddenly switching polarities and entering unity with the one creator to experience ceaseless bliss forever more may exist. Though we surely do not understand it with our third density / Human / Earth conditioning.
I hope this post hasn't been too rambling, I'm up late with rare free time and some cold chardonnay.
Much love to you and all,
Lavazza
Great thread topic. Many of us have been raised in either the J, I, or C traditions. Myself the last of them, although it never really took a very strong hold on me as a youngster or young adult when I did follow it, and I certainly follow it no more. Nevertheless, some of the concepts taught therein seem to hold a sway, even if ever so subtly, later in life. Case in point- I still held on to residual fear of burning damnation after death even though I had intellectually given up Christianity years before. This being a long, long time before discovering my esoteric spiritual home, the LOO. (I was able to release these fears after meeting my wonderful wife, who showed me a better path with her upbringing in Unitarian/Unity/Univeralist churches. The LOO followed years later).
Anyways- the reason I bring up this example is because as you so aptly prefaced your question with a possible explanation, that being that having been raised in a JIC tradition yourself, you found trouble when attempting to reconcile ideas presented by Ra and ones you were presented with years earlier. Trying to do so is, in a word I think, folly.
In a lecture given by Don during the Ra contact years, he makes a strong point about the reason why his extraterrestial contact constantly uses the word "distortion":
http://www.llresearch.org/speeches/speec..._0421.aspx Wrote:All information that has ever been communicated by language on this planet is distorted. All religious information is distorted. The only way you’re ever going to get pure information is by making it back around the whole cycle, reuniting with the creative Consciousness, and then you’ll be undistorted. So this is why the word, distortion, is very important. Our contact continually uses the word distortion. All the information you have been given is distorted to some extent or another. Most of it is pretty much distorted.
Our JIC religions are indeed distorted. Verily so. They would have us believe in the sort of God who ensures a human version of justice is always and forever carried out upon those who do "wrong" and those who do "right". Thus we have the myth of Heaven, and the myth of Hell, to satisfy and justify the religious when "wrong" is carried out upon them. But, here I must turn to the NDE (Near Death Experience) literature if not the Ra material. After death, 90% of NDE'ers report that there is no final judgment as is spoken of in the Bible, Koran, et cetera. The judgment is always given from the self, to the self. I might suggest that Ra echos this sentiment, and I suspect basic and general philosophy of the bigger picture when describing the so called Negative entity in his acsention through the densities.
What I am saying, is that the so-called free pass (I now use this term independently of your context, 3D) is actually an example of distorted thinking. It's a product of our religious upbringing, and perhaps disadvantageous to hold on to. I see it as inconsequential to me personally how so and so handles his or her polarity a few billion years from now. It's interesting to speculate of course- but take care not to cast judgment. Doing so is indeed a real stumbler.
Judgment may itself be a good topic later. I've come to feel since reading the LOO that there really is no justice in the way your typical JIC priest would have it be, when you look at the real world, the real universe and metaverse. If justice does exist it is impartial or beyond our understanding. And thus seeming "unjust" situations of STS entities reaping havoc upon other portions of creation for billions or more of years and suddenly switching polarities and entering unity with the one creator to experience ceaseless bliss forever more may exist. Though we surely do not understand it with our third density / Human / Earth conditioning.
I hope this post hasn't been too rambling, I'm up late with rare free time and some cold chardonnay.
Much love to you and all,
Lavazza