Non-sober Meditations

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

I've been running some things through my mind lately and one of the recurring thoughts is, 'does my smoking interfere with my spirituality'.

I do smoke cannabis.  I began using it for graveyard shifts to help me sleep during the day.  I've quit it once to find a new job then started again, and can easily quit it (the extra money is great motivation), and have been very recently been putting off meditating when high because I recall discussion that speaks of performing meditations while non-sober can make doing them when sober harder.

It's interesting to note how the body handles it differently becoming reacquainted, it is no longer as light and carefree an experience.  Sometimes I feel anxiety and fear that I notice to be greetings exploiting openings in my auric field.  I find accepting the paranoia and denial and fear rather than intellectually trying to fight it actually stops the feelings.  The biggest new thing to happen is hallucinations of physical phenomena that are unpleasant.  I've 'heard' my teeth crack before, and 'felt' my nails and jaw uncomfortably so.  It took me facing myself in the mirror and telling myself it's the experiences I don't normally notice consciously without being put into a disassociative state of 'high' to notice everything, and the unnoticed things caused anxiety, until I acknowledged I was noticing them and there was nothing weird about being some 'conscious something' looking out through holes in jelly ball bags inside a walking container of mostly water with hard parts on the inside and various layers of existing being.  Oh, and that right behind my field of vision is the entire center through which I operate consciously through, a jumble of fibers that send electrical explosions that create blast-offs of chemicals.  (Which honestly freaked me out because I was realizing how much meat and bone I am.)

But ultimately, it's leveled off to I have moments now where I'll feel something intuitive but it's these utterly complex and massive concepts that sometimes are just too much for me to handle.  (Then again I get those sober and drunk too at the moment now as well but they're much more noticeable high).

And so I've decided I should ask some of y'all, you might know, right?


My first question is, has anyone found this to be true?  Does cannabis or alcohol use alongside meditation make it harder to do sober?

My second question is, does anyone else circumnavigate this supposed issue by just meditating regardless of state of being or mind, is this possible or not recommended?

My greatest experiences came when I used to meditate while high.  The thing was I would perform clearing meditations of the mind since my memory made contemplation meditations almost pointless as any real breakthroughs would be swallowed up by the forgetting associated with the high state.  An issue that while it goes away when you come down past the high into the post-high buzz, is still an issue nonetheless.  I've also tried meditating while drunk but that just isn't happening for me, my head feels heavy and unusually thick when I tried to meditate drunk or buzzed on alcohol, it's more of a contemplation helper.  Since unlike weed I don't forget what I come to realize (also why I usually write down important intuits into a journal when high).

Does anyone else have any thoughts or comments on non-sober meditations?  I figured you shouldn't do just them as it'd train your mind to think it's easy, and creates that much more friction when trying to do it sober.  I imagine you can do such when impaired, but in a shallow type of way until you're able to easily meditate into deeper states sober before attempting any not sober.

Thoughts my sacred friends?