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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Questions regarding the LOO, STS and Religions

    Thread: Questions regarding the LOO, STS and Religions


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    09-10-2010, 11:36 PM
    (09-09-2010, 06:03 PM)Quantum Wrote: Does it sometimes, even momentarily, stump you after you close your LOO books, study guides, sign off the forum, close down the Quo sessions, etc, and then turn on the news to see all manner of horrendous and dastardly deeds performed on the planet and its peoples at large, to know that these (STS) acts are part of the fast track to God as much are are Mother Teressa's?
    ...I will be curious to see the responses to what otherwise seems to be an elementary question upon which the LOO rests upon...

    3D Wrote:Hi Q,
    ...The politically correct answer is "No". The truth is almost always "Sometimes, but I'm not proud of it, and I really try hard not to be."
    So, my direct answer to your question is "Yes, sometimes I am at least momentarily stumped by that fact, but I really try hard not to be."....it is due to my inherent sense of fairness and empathy. ... But the issue (to me) boils down to one of restitution and recompense. It would seem that the STS entity is essentially given a "free ride" for their deeds. This need for restitution transcends my JIC training, because it is found in the heart of every religion of which I am aware (in the form of underworld tortures, karmic debts, etc.).

    This has led me to consider, in some detail, the process by which an STS entity switches polarity in mid-sixth density. It would seem to me that this process - since it necessarily first involves recognizing that the other self is, indeed, a part of the self - MUST involve forgiveness of the self and by the other self. It would seem to me that during this epiphanic (if I may create an adjective) and cathartic process, that all deeds are examined, accepted and forgiven, as must be the case for an STS polarity to diminish.

    There have been many discussions on other forums lately about areas where one's personal belief system is contrary to that of Ra. We have now entered into this zone in mine. For it seems to me that, in reality - in order to move past mid-sixth density and begin the inner spiral back into the One Infinite Creator - it is not an STO polarity that is needed, but rather a totally balanced entity must result. That is to say that in releasing their STS polarity (through whatever process is necessary), it would seem to me that all the actions that were taken to lead to the polarity must be balanced with the opposite action/intention. It would also seem to me that the STO entity must, by necessity balance all STO actions (that is to say, they must forgive themselves for the actions in which they placed the other-self in higher regard than they did the self). I think that this is the ultimate process of atonement (recall that "atonement" literally means at-one-ment) and forgiveness. It would seem to me that once the polarity is ultimately balanced (by accepting the other path's viability through consideration of each action that led to the entity's polarity), then and only then is the entity ready to move forward and return to source.
    As always 3D, I look forward to your intuitive responses as much as your intellectual analysis's. Your points are quite interesting. Your statement that "the issue (to me) boils down to one of restitution and recompense. It would seem that the STS entity is essentially given a "free ride" for their deeds" sums it up rather nicely. Our conventional lessons in Christianity, Judaism, and Islamic faith based systems all seemingly melt against the backdrop of the LOO with respect to this free ride and pass that STS seemingly gets. I am somewhat well versed in Scripture, but perhaps for the more versed, I wonder if there are references to fire, hell, damnation etc or the need for restitution as spoken to by Jesus himself specifically rather than any other figure or reference generally. I say this as it would seem fair to dismiss all other references given we know that the Jesus entity specifically was named as a wanderer and successful in his mission.

    As for your second paragraph above, I do understand your meaning entirely, but it still seems to resonate as perhaps somewhat of a free pass in that the STS entity, much as in a black and white 1950 movie, wherein the prisoner is given his last rights and absolution by the priest before being summarily hanged, but not before being duly forgiven as a declaration or assurance of divine forgiveness to penitent believers made after confession of sins and sent straight away to heaven for doing so. Certainly no man may know the mind of the Creator and Its mercy, but it is a stumper nonetheless. The story of the Prodigal Son comes to mind wherein the father of his household happily receives the mischievous son in question, who the good son rather naturally questions both father and son for, much less himself no doubt, given that the lecherous, lascivious, libertine, libidinous, licentious, low-down, lubricous brother in question no doubt had a much better time of it for being so.

    As for your last paragraph and conjecture, fascinating. STO may have a reconciliation of sorts as well? It stands to reason perhaps. This consideration further gives me pause to previous conversations on another thread we spoke to with respect to the Ohaspe Material which to my knowledge is one of the only books so cited as having been passed by the Council as per the LOO/Ra quote. I need to delve into this thought before mis-speaking to consider it more before commenting further, but there may be some congruency present as a result of your very interesting premise.

    (09-10-2010, 05:54 PM)peelstreetguy Wrote: Hi Quantum, Interesting question.
    For the record, I went to Catholic sunday school and church when I was a child....When I found the LOO, it freed me entirely...
    I would love for Q'uo to describe in detail the method by which STS switches to STO...........
    Thank you Peelstreet for your participation. I wonder though what specifically however your personal thoughts are to the question, i.e. "does STS get a free ride or does the reconciliation make sense to you" as much as I do any other member who might have something to offer. The philosophy is clear enough, but how does it resonate with you as a past Catholic or Muslim or Jew or any other religion which abounds rather profoundly with reconciliation issues.

    As for asking Quo, a wonderful idea.

    Looking forward to see if it causes less or as much of a question to most.

    ~ Q ~

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    Questions regarding the LOO, STS and Religions - by Quantum - 09-09-2010, 06:03 PM
    Questions regarding the LOO - by C-JEAN - 09-09-2010, 11:10 PM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by Quantum - 09-10-2010, 08:17 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by LsavedSmeD - 09-11-2010, 08:56 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by βαθμιαίος - 09-11-2010, 10:58 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by 3D Sunset - 09-11-2010, 11:21 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by Quantum - 09-11-2010, 11:55 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by LsavedSmeD - 09-11-2010, 04:53 PM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by 3D Sunset - 09-10-2010, 09:55 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by peelstreetguy - 09-10-2010, 05:54 PM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by Quantum - 09-10-2010, 11:36 PM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by spero - 09-11-2010, 01:06 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by βαθμιαίος - 09-11-2010, 11:30 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by Quantum - 09-13-2010, 02:33 PM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by LsavedSmeD - 09-14-2010, 09:41 PM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by lightning - 09-15-2010, 09:57 AM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by Quantum - 09-15-2010, 01:31 PM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by Lavazza - 09-15-2010, 07:13 PM
    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by lightning - 09-15-2010, 07:14 PM
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    RE: Questions regarding the LOO - by spero - 09-11-2010, 07:53 PM
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