10-01-2015, 01:41 AM
@anagogy
I guess I will fumble here for some words, as I don't think I really understand the issue.
It seems like a stepping point to unity is the Higher Self. Ra even mentioned this in regards to invocations (last paragraph). Now, regardless of whether or not one does this explicitly, I still think all attempts and movements towards an experience of Unity proceed from such pathways, at least energetically speaking. The person may not consciously invoke such rituals, but in terms of mechanics, the Higher Self/magical personality is a bypoint to things beyond. One reason for this, I think, is that the Oversoul/Higher-Self sits in mid-6th density, and is the pinnacle of positive service. It is the embodiment of outward oriented activity, and everything beyond that point can only be inward gestation of the infinity of the self, ie, the compaction of the Creator.
so we move from the small self, to the higher self, and then to experiences of the infinite.
The issue seems to be with situations where someone is able to experience this dual state of the infinite, and also the incarnate. The prime example being Sri Nirsagadatta, but I have also recently had an experience via Skype of someone who had all the indicators of such a dual state. It was a miracle to behold, quite honestly. The experience felt very much on the same vibrational plane as reading I Am That. It was the same 'voice of the Creator' let's say.
So it seems that given any situation, we are simultaneously in three conditions. The incarnate self, the Higher Self, and the one Creator. That is the true reality, vibrationally speaking. Perceptually, we experience different degrees of it.
I guess the issue is that it is only ignorance which is preventing a fuller experience of all 3 simultaneous states. And Nirsagadtta also stressed that all sages are flawed in unique and human ways, referencing the incarnate personality which is still evolving.
My mind is still struggling with the notion of concurrent states. I think that's the primary issue here. There is some conceptual (self-limiting block/belief pattern) in place.
I guess I will fumble here for some words, as I don't think I really understand the issue.
It seems like a stepping point to unity is the Higher Self. Ra even mentioned this in regards to invocations (last paragraph). Now, regardless of whether or not one does this explicitly, I still think all attempts and movements towards an experience of Unity proceed from such pathways, at least energetically speaking. The person may not consciously invoke such rituals, but in terms of mechanics, the Higher Self/magical personality is a bypoint to things beyond. One reason for this, I think, is that the Oversoul/Higher-Self sits in mid-6th density, and is the pinnacle of positive service. It is the embodiment of outward oriented activity, and everything beyond that point can only be inward gestation of the infinity of the self, ie, the compaction of the Creator.
so we move from the small self, to the higher self, and then to experiences of the infinite.
The issue seems to be with situations where someone is able to experience this dual state of the infinite, and also the incarnate. The prime example being Sri Nirsagadatta, but I have also recently had an experience via Skype of someone who had all the indicators of such a dual state. It was a miracle to behold, quite honestly. The experience felt very much on the same vibrational plane as reading I Am That. It was the same 'voice of the Creator' let's say.
So it seems that given any situation, we are simultaneously in three conditions. The incarnate self, the Higher Self, and the one Creator. That is the true reality, vibrationally speaking. Perceptually, we experience different degrees of it.
I guess the issue is that it is only ignorance which is preventing a fuller experience of all 3 simultaneous states. And Nirsagadtta also stressed that all sages are flawed in unique and human ways, referencing the incarnate personality which is still evolving.
My mind is still struggling with the notion of concurrent states. I think that's the primary issue here. There is some conceptual (self-limiting block/belief pattern) in place.
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