Speaking of silly, all This talk about indigenous peoples eating meat reminds me of that silly argument "What if you were stranded on a desert island with a pig. Would you eat the pig?"
It's silly because 99.99999% of us will never be in that situation! (And anyway, if we are, just see what the pig eats and eat that, duh.)
I find the topic of this thread interesting in a philosophical way; ie., to better understand the veiling process and exactly what that means, in regards to how this planet got so bellicose in the first place.
But in regards to using the fact that indigenous peoples had to hunt to survive, as an attempted justification for eating meat now, falls flat. Totally.
Why? For the simple reason that they had No choice. They had to hunt in order to survive.
We don't.
That is the difference, quite simply.
Furthermore, aren't we supposed to be...ahem...evolving? Aligning with 4D? We're all in agreement that animals don't get slaughtered for meat in 4D, right? We just disagree about how to get from Point A to Point B.
Actually, let me modify that: Point B to Point C.
Let's say our current 3D reality is Point B, and 4D reality is Point C. Early 3D, around the time of the caveman, is Point A.
So, we're well past Point A, and are now at Point B. Our goal is Point C.
To attempt to justify caveman-like behavior, just because early humans did it, isn't going in the right direction. It isn't helping us jump to Point C. In fact, it isn't even keeping us at Point B! It's actually DEvolving, backwards, to Point A!
I'd say that buying meat wrapped in plastic at the grocery store is a step backwards, compared to the way indigenous peoples got their meat. They at least took responsibility for the death of that animal, they killed the animal themselves, they probably gave thanks to the Great Spirit (or whatever they called the Creator) for finding food, and they used all of the animal's body to make clothing and shelter. They didn't waste anything and they certainly didn't torture the animal first. But most importantly, they had NO choice. They did it only for survival.
Now let's compare that to the average person today, including most people here on this forum, apparently. They don't hunt and kill the animal themselves (well maybe a few do, but most probably don't). They pay someone else to do the dirty work for them, and that someone is, most likely, raping and torturing the animal for his/her entire life before getting slaughtered. They might claim to buy only 'humane' meat (which is an oxymoron anyway) but if they ever eat at a restaurant or buy from a mainstream grocery store, they are most assuredly getting the worst of the worst: Meat from animals who were tortured. Literally. And, most importantly, in this information age, they now know that they don't even need it at all. They aren't doing it for survival like our ancestors did; they're doing it because they like the taste of bacon.
Then they say "Oh but it's ok to eat meat because our ancestors did" totally missing the fact that the way they're getting their meat is nothing like the way their ancestors did, and totally Not for the same reasons at all.
I'd say that killing animals for survival only is a much more evolved way of eating meat than buying it at the grocery store for taste only! (or just because it's tradition and nothing more)
We're supposedly evolving to 4D - Point C - but it appears that humans are, for the most part, actually DEvolving in regards to meat. They're knowingly supporting a barbaric, horrific practice for No good reason, but for taste and tradition only. At least our ancestors only did it for survival.
Not only that, but we can't expect to go Poof! into 4D, while still practicing barbaric behavior, that is in some ways lower than that of the caveman. :idea: How's that for a novel idea? Eating meat in 3D is actually less evolved than indigenous peoples eating meat, because it's for selfish reasons, rather than survival. Plus, it's with full awareness about the horrors of the meat industry, and full awareness that the human body doesn't even need it at all, and full awareness of alternatives. (I'm speaking about the average person living in the age of internet, Not primitive people on a secluded island or the Inuit, ok? You know what I mean here.) Full awareness, yet choosing to do it anyway...I'd say that isn't evolving...that's DEVO!
The caveman didn't know any better and the caveman had No choice.
We do know better, and we do have the choice.
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It's silly because 99.99999% of us will never be in that situation! (And anyway, if we are, just see what the pig eats and eat that, duh.)
I find the topic of this thread interesting in a philosophical way; ie., to better understand the veiling process and exactly what that means, in regards to how this planet got so bellicose in the first place.
But in regards to using the fact that indigenous peoples had to hunt to survive, as an attempted justification for eating meat now, falls flat. Totally.
Why? For the simple reason that they had No choice. They had to hunt in order to survive.
We don't.
That is the difference, quite simply.
Furthermore, aren't we supposed to be...ahem...evolving? Aligning with 4D? We're all in agreement that animals don't get slaughtered for meat in 4D, right? We just disagree about how to get from Point A to Point B.
Actually, let me modify that: Point B to Point C.
Let's say our current 3D reality is Point B, and 4D reality is Point C. Early 3D, around the time of the caveman, is Point A.
So, we're well past Point A, and are now at Point B. Our goal is Point C.
To attempt to justify caveman-like behavior, just because early humans did it, isn't going in the right direction. It isn't helping us jump to Point C. In fact, it isn't even keeping us at Point B! It's actually DEvolving, backwards, to Point A!
I'd say that buying meat wrapped in plastic at the grocery store is a step backwards, compared to the way indigenous peoples got their meat. They at least took responsibility for the death of that animal, they killed the animal themselves, they probably gave thanks to the Great Spirit (or whatever they called the Creator) for finding food, and they used all of the animal's body to make clothing and shelter. They didn't waste anything and they certainly didn't torture the animal first. But most importantly, they had NO choice. They did it only for survival.
Now let's compare that to the average person today, including most people here on this forum, apparently. They don't hunt and kill the animal themselves (well maybe a few do, but most probably don't). They pay someone else to do the dirty work for them, and that someone is, most likely, raping and torturing the animal for his/her entire life before getting slaughtered. They might claim to buy only 'humane' meat (which is an oxymoron anyway) but if they ever eat at a restaurant or buy from a mainstream grocery store, they are most assuredly getting the worst of the worst: Meat from animals who were tortured. Literally. And, most importantly, in this information age, they now know that they don't even need it at all. They aren't doing it for survival like our ancestors did; they're doing it because they like the taste of bacon.
Then they say "Oh but it's ok to eat meat because our ancestors did" totally missing the fact that the way they're getting their meat is nothing like the way their ancestors did, and totally Not for the same reasons at all.
I'd say that killing animals for survival only is a much more evolved way of eating meat than buying it at the grocery store for taste only! (or just because it's tradition and nothing more)
We're supposedly evolving to 4D - Point C - but it appears that humans are, for the most part, actually DEvolving in regards to meat. They're knowingly supporting a barbaric, horrific practice for No good reason, but for taste and tradition only. At least our ancestors only did it for survival.
Not only that, but we can't expect to go Poof! into 4D, while still practicing barbaric behavior, that is in some ways lower than that of the caveman. :idea: How's that for a novel idea? Eating meat in 3D is actually less evolved than indigenous peoples eating meat, because it's for selfish reasons, rather than survival. Plus, it's with full awareness about the horrors of the meat industry, and full awareness that the human body doesn't even need it at all, and full awareness of alternatives. (I'm speaking about the average person living in the age of internet, Not primitive people on a secluded island or the Inuit, ok? You know what I mean here.) Full awareness, yet choosing to do it anyway...I'd say that isn't evolving...that's DEVO!
The caveman didn't know any better and the caveman had No choice.
We do know better, and we do have the choice.
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