09-29-2015, 02:20 PM
(09-29-2015, 01:31 PM)Shemaya Wrote: It is a naive and unsophisticated argument to place the blame of participating and supporting those lower energies on only "meat-eaters" or omnivores.
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This is likely one reason why there is so much backlash in threads like this. When looking at the whole picture with an understanding that consciousness and energy are fundamental and the foundation of our existence, we can see that the STS System that we live in is fundamentally exploiting all Life.
We have the power to free our consciousness from that however by understanding that we are all things. By shifting our perception of identity. Therefore, I am male, I am female, I am white, I am black, I am vegan, I am pescetarian, I am omnivore. I am all of these and none of these. If I identify with Light and Love, rather than my form, it is less distorted to make choices in alignment with that identity. Identifying with love and light places one in alignment with the energy of appreciating the sacredness of all Life.
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Again, the awareness of the sacredness of all life is what the pre-veil humans knew with much less distortion than us. It makes total sense, as we nourish our Spirit with love and light , the natural flow will be one of freedom, symbiosis, cooperation, community.
Please stop suggesting that those in favor of a plant-based diet are so stupid (or zealots, or extremists, etc.). My arguments (meant on the vein of discussion) are not naive or unsophisticated.
As to labeling: this is way off base. This is not about us vs. them. This is about having compassion for animal life. It is a simple decision to stop eating factory-farmed meat. It is not as simple of a decision to stop buying products made in sweat shops (because it is more difficult to find out if the products even come from sweat shops or if the villagers working there want or don't want the jobs. That is not to say sweat shops are compassionate. Just that it's more complex.). Who is doing the labeling in your statements?
Of course all life is sacred! That's precisely why it is so reprehensible that humans use animals (and all life including the planet and other humans) in the way we do. An attitude of gratefulness and respect is so very fundamental. But that attitude falls short if one is knowingly indulging in something unnecessary, that causes suffering, then spreading affirmations over the top of this toxicity thinking it makes everything okay.
Indigenous peoples, who did (and do) honor the life they took for nourishment, were doing that to survive. We don't have to do that now. And let's not forget what a horrible system we have turned obtaining meat into; indigenous people who had a reverence for life did not make animals suffer in the way we do now. Sending love and gratitude to the life you take for nourishment is one thing, but to think that evens the scales of suffering for factory-farmed meat animals is what is naive and unsophisticated.
Look, I don't want to argue with you, Shemaya. But I honestly find your sideways, sugar-coated digs offensive. I'm sure someone here will talk about mirroring, or triggers. And if anyone would like to blame me for the attacks others make have at it. I will take full responsibility for anything hurtful, inconsiderate, or otherwise out-of-line things I say here.