Did Entities Eat Meat Before The Veil ?

[Shemaya]

It is also a fact that buying many things at the grocery store like avocados, cashews, almonds, and quinoa for example, support systems of human exploitation, enslavement and environmental degradation in a capitalistic system of exploitive accumulation of profit and wealth.  Buying anything contributes to supply and demand.  Meat is not the only grocery store item that causes harm, or is produced/ harvested violently.  I think it is a huge disconnect to have the view that only meat or dairy consumption is responsible for suffering and enslavement, it just is not true.

No one said that meat and dairy consumption are the only areas responsible for suffering and enslavement.

This thread is about eating meat. And it is undeniable that meat eating causes suffering and enslavement. I agree that there is a large overview to look at. And within the context of eating animals, for the good of the WORLD, it would be better to cease this unnecessary consumption. Growing food for humans and not the meat animals alone would ease much human as well as animal suffering.

I am not sure if you are saying my individual choice of whether or not to eat meat or the world as a whole.  Coming from a perspective of the WORLD, the design has been one of a circle of life, and that involved nourishment derived from consuming other living things.  When speaking of the pre-veil humans, they had a less distorted connection to the cycles and all Life, as well as Spirit, I believe. And they ate meat.  I don't think there has been even  one vegan ancestral human society.

Even now, humans that live in local economies, generally not here in America, grow their own food and very often raise domestic animals to supplement their diets.  I saw this in Africa where the people grew much of their food, their diet was mostly plant-based, but they would have meat on special occasions.  The goat was ritually sacrificed in my experience, not bought in a grocery store. 

I think if we are expecting a global shift in consciousness, having some understanding of other conditions and other people is helpful to broaden the scope of our perspective.  If we understand true history, sociology, psychology, science, medicine etc. (which are all just aspects of an expanding global consciousness), then the omnivore vs. vegan debate starts to looks a little silly to me, and not coming from a expanded  and evolved level of consciousness.

If anyone is waiting around for the transnational corporations raking in the profits to lead the way into a loving future, good luck. I think it must begin with personal change. Stop supporting cruelty in the ways that you can. One EASY way is to stop eating grocery store meat from factory farms. I say EASY because it is doable, barring addictions, taste, habits, comfort, unconsciousness, etc. So perhaps it's not easy for the individual in some cases, but what is the alternative?

I am not sure who is waiting for that.  I agree with you, changing our diet and choosing a plant based diet is one way to withdraw support from an oppressive system.