(09-25-2015, 12:32 PM)Diana Wrote:(09-25-2015, 10:04 AM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: Well I do not find them merry but I still do not feel repulsion while watching. I picture it as a harsh catalyst even for the workers when they'll succeed in opening their heart ray. But I do still think these places resonate death and suffering and yet souls apparently resonate with incarnating there. Just as much as there is death, there also is life in this video as that without any of these meat farms none of them would even exist.
I personally feel repulsed by even holding an animal that I feel doesn't want to be held, so I guess it is very relative to the context and my implication with it. Tried fishing and hated it, even if I'd release the fish I found no pleasure in holding them against their will nor hurting them with the hooks. I feel no need for myself to inflict pain on another sentient being but can understand that others do have this need, that they unknowingly offer as a service.
Your reasoning makes sense to my intellect if I can shut off any connection to my heart. I'm not accusing you of having a closed heart, but that is the only way I can reconcile your mindset. Of course, I am not a great advanced being so my perception is limited.
Well my heart is what it is, working on it takes a long time and includes uncovering what is not known to me. The only way I have found to experience my heart fully open so far is through the use of drugs, works nicely on facing and seeking how it makes me feel so that I can desire it in my daily life.
(09-25-2015, 12:32 PM)Diana Wrote: I understand how the intellect can weave justifications, and the ego is the mastermind of that endeavor. I don't mean the standard idea of ego, I mean the vital portion of the 3D self that protects the self—an important job up until a point.
What tells you in the case of others it necessary has to do with the 3D ego? We all came here to work on different things from before being veiled. You are right that I tend to justify, not just my actions but existence as a whole.
(09-25-2015, 12:32 PM)Diana Wrote: To say the meat animals (and slaughterhouse employees, etc.) choose it is completely beside the point. The point is, why does anyone here choose to be part of it? There may be young girls who choose on a soul level for whatever reason to be abducted and sold into slavery for sex, but is there anyone here who would choose to benefit from that suffering consciously? Would anyone here "buy" one of those girls and justify it as being of service to the girls who "need" it?
It's convoluted to me.
I do not think that the notion that they are choosing it is beside the point. I think there is beauty to be found in souls that willingly integrate pain as part of their path so that their future selves may know pain in their understanding of love.
I do what I feel called to do, if you ask why I do not do other things, I'll just tell you that I already am as every other-selves who are doing these things.