09-25-2015, 12:32 PM
(09-25-2015, 10:04 AM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(09-24-2015, 09:57 PM)Monica Wrote:(09-24-2015, 12:02 AM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: Because I do accept it's provenance without feeling repulsion as you do.
Really? Are you saying that you don't feel repulsed by eating meat, OR are you saying that you don't feel repulsed by this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUQnMvigcdQ
Are you saying that you can watch this, and Not feel repulsed?
How about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM-JsyyfSmE
Still no repulsion?
Are you able to watch these in their entirety without feeling any repulsion? Or do you mean that you refuse to watch these videos, and don't feel any repulsion? (Ie. there is a difference between watching the videos and Not feeling repulsed, vs. NOT watching the videos and Not feeling repulsed. So I am trying to understand what you mean, specifically.)
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Well I do not find them merry but I still do not feel repulsion while watching. I picture it as a harsh catalyst even for the workers when they'll succeed in opening their heart ray. But I do still think these places resonate death and suffering and yet souls apparently resonate with incarnating there. Just as much as there is death, there also is life in this video as that without any of these meat farms none of them would even exist.
I personally feel repulsed by even holding an animal that I feel doesn't want to be held, so I guess it is very relative to the context and my implication with it. Tried fishing and hated it, even if I'd release the fish I found no pleasure in holding them against their will nor hurting them with the hooks. I feel no need for myself to inflict pain on another sentient being but can understand that others do have this need, that they unknowingly offer as a service.
Your reasoning makes sense to my intellect if I can shut off any connection to my heart. I'm not accusing you of having a closed heart, but that is the only way I can reconcile your mindset. Of course, I am not a great advanced being so my perception is limited.
I understand how the intellect can weave justifications, and the ego is the mastermind of that endeavor. I don't mean the standard idea of ego, I mean the vital portion of the 3D self that protects the self—an important job up until a point.
To say the meat animals (and slaughterhouse employees, etc.) choose it is completely beside the point. The point is, why does anyone here choose to be part of it? There may be young girls who choose on a soul level for whatever reason to be abducted and sold into slavery for sex, but is there anyone here who would choose to benefit from that suffering consciously? Would anyone here "buy" one of those girls and justify it as being of service to the girls who "need" it?
It's convoluted to me.