Did Entities Eat Meat Before The Veil ?

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To all those who believed that entities ate meat before the veil, could you explain to me how killing the animal didn't infringe upon their free will?. Considering there was no STS before the veil, their meat eating I assume, was done in a way that allowed them to not infringe on the free will of the animals. I can't see an act of killing were the entity resist that can result in free will not being violated. can someone provide an example please and thanks

At any point in time, there are a number of beings at the end of their life cycle.  They are ready to return to spirit, and then reincarnate in a new body.  They must leave their physical complexes in some way.  This could happen in a variety of ways: bacterial infection, viral infection, old age, or they could be released by the actions on their physical vehicle by another physical vehicle (hunters, and other predators).

Keep in mind, without the veil, "The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total. Therefore, no love is terribly important; no pain terribly frightening; no effort, therefore, is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear."

The natural predator/prey world is one thing. I don't like it, and I hope it evolves to something with less suffering (being eaten, vigilant, and hungry). But it is an ecosystem that balances itself.

Humankind does not fit into this ecosystem. Humankind unbalances it. (Not to mention destroys it.) I think the creation of this "experiment" here sucks. I wouldn't mind it as much if humans only hurt humans, as there is a collective desire/responsibility.

If there was meat eating "before the veil" then I would say the humans were as animals—late 2D—like chimpanzees. Otherwise, if humans were like us now with our capacity to think, perceive, and feel, then no, they did not eat meat. Unless they lived in places such as Alaska where there is no viable vegetation, they did not have to. The law of conservation of energy, and the principle of least action, which still drives us though we don't know it, would surely have driven humans then when they were more animal-like. It is so much easier to gather fruit and plants than to risk injury and use a lot of energy to capture an animal for food.

Regarding the bolded statement above: I think that is referring to 3D and above entities. I don't think that refers to animals. If that was the intention of posting it here, one only needs to watch an animal get tortured and slaughtered to know that isn't true. They are terrified and in pain. 

What is the purpose of the question: Did entities eat meat before the veil? Is it curiosity and speculation, or is it a way to justify eating it now? Of course, there is no justification in my opinion. Humans may have the mandate to use and learn from the use of free will. But that doesn't make the whole "experiment" a great thing. I don't have to agree with it because there is some Creator who (that) has created it, and that being is not to be questioned. That's really too much like Christianity to me. I do question it. I do understand embracing the shadow. I do understand embracing all that is. But to justify the atrocities that go on here in 3D because of free will and stand back and say, "Oh, this is okay. It's all ephemeral anyway. All those suffering beings will understand on some level," is not higher consciousness thinking, it's blocked compassion. As I do not consider myself a very advanced being, I freely admit that I have a difficult time accepting the way things are here. 

But, it's one thing to accept what is here, and another to indulge in it.

The purpose of this question is too see if an entity can show or explain to me a way in which an entity can eat meat without infringing on the free will of the animal. I personally believe it cannot be done because when you attempt to murder any entity that is mid to higher 2d they resist. The resistance is their will. So if i kill them i'm infringing on their will. therefore it should fall under the identity of STS the only way to obtain meat without violating a higher 2d animals will is if it dies of old age, sickness, other natural causes, or if the animals itself chooses to sacrifice itself so the other-self can eat it. But just because this is what i believe doesn't mean i'm not open minded to new ideas that may alter my understanding.

Before the veil there were no sts entities. So that means before the veil no one infringed the free will of others. if they ate meat, they done it in a manner that didn't infringe on free will. I personally cannot image such a way, so im asking others who can to explain and imagine such a way for me. I know their are quite a few who believe that eating meat doesn't fall under STS.